D@MN RUST BUCKET!

rwsr50 · Jun 22, 2004

C'mon guys. I know that a FEL bucket is going to get the paint rubbed off and is going to rust. Same with the heim joint balls on the 3 point, disheartening as it was to see them all rusty when I went to pick up my brand new tractor.

Look at the pics in the post about wiring up a work light though. Two different tractors, and both with well established rust around welds...and that's under the seat where they are protected. That's what I'm talking about. Appears to me that Kubota isn't getting all the flux off their welds before painting or not doing any surface prep or something. I also seem to be seeing evidence of no primer, just final coat shot on bare metal, and then just wherever it happened to land, if it missed the undersides of things, so be it.

MuncyBob · Jun 22, 2004

I too would be interested to see if anybody has used this "rust neutralizer". I'm going to order a small amount and see if it does the trick on my Meyer snow plow...I'll try to remember to post something about it here when I see the results.

beenthere · Jun 22, 2004

rwsr50
After seing the 'heim' joint the second time in your posts, I started wondering if it wasn't a typo, and looked it up. Sure learned a new term, and never did know there was a specific term for that 'ball' in the end of the top arm and lift arms. Thanks for the education.
I would not be pleased with what you are finding with the paint. Good luck.

Jeff396 · Jun 23, 2004

I also seem to be seeing evidence of no primer 

I've got paint peeling off my fel receiver in sheets. It is happening around the area where it gets knocked by the fel during removal and re-attachment. As you say, it's like they did no surface prep and I don't see any evidense of primer either.

Jeff

Jeff396 · Jun 23, 2004

Oh, I also am seeing this on my leaf vac brackets for the mmm but have yet to find any problems on the actual tractor.

The paint missing from the balls of the 3 pt arms I think is a catch 22. I seem to remember a thread where people were complaining that the balls wouldn't move due to paint making attaching an implement difficult until it all got worn off.

2 1/2 years after purchase and I still look forward to mowing the lawn!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Jeff

TresCrows · Jun 23, 2004

( C'mon guys. I know that a FEL bucket is going to get the paint rubbed off and is going to rust. Same with the heim joint balls on the 3 point, disheartening as it was to see them all rusty when I went to pick up my brand new tractor.

Look at the pics in the post about wiring up a work light though. Two different tractors, and both with well established rust around welds...and that's under the seat where they are protected. That's what I'm talking about. Appears to me that Kubota isn't getting all the flux off their welds before painting or not doing any surface prep or something. I also seem to be seeing evidence of no primer, just final coat shot on bare metal, and then just wherever it happened to land, if it missed the undersides of things, so be it. )

Not all paint process involve primers as such. Some industrial paints do not use a primer, just a surface prep. There are several primers on the market that are essentially clear and contain a metal prep and surface stabilizer and an etch. Powder coating also may not have a conventional primer. I just had a motorcycle frame done--no primer and where I had put primer on it that blasted it off.
Hmmm, I think you should sell that rust bucket. For reference, both of my tractors appear fully painted, top and bottom and the paint seems quite tenacious on the loader and boxblade considering what they do. Since your tractor has not been painted to your satisfaction you probably have a problem you will never be satisfied with. Too bad. J

rwsr50 · Jun 23, 2004

( I think you should sell that rust bucket. )

Probably should...but it's so dang rusty nobody would buy it, ha, ha.

You act like I'm being overly picky, but I paid almost as much for this tractor as I paid for my Audi A6, and I certainly think one should get better quality for that much money.

If I was in business or something and just "used and abused" the tar out of it and got rid of it when it no longer worked, wrote it off as a business expense, and got a new one, it would be different. To the contrary, I bought this thing to be the last tractor I ever buy. I gotta make it last.

Rainbow6 · Jun 23, 2004

Man, you should have no problem doing that. I can't believe that any of the things you have mentioned so far will turn into a real problem, no way. Unless you fail to service it or just leave it out in the rain you have a 20 year machine there.
I am moving soon and plan to invest in a 12 x 20 outbuilding
just for my BX2230. ( I may put a TV and an easy chair too )
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Junkman · Jun 23, 2004

On my car, I have any chips, scratches, or rust removed and repainted. My tractor is a year old and I will never spend the money to paint any of the scratches. It is a tool, not a car. I could buy 5 tractors for what my car cost, so it is more important to me.. I am also certain that my tractor will outlive my car no matter how well I take care of both of them. I put 10,000 miles on the car in a year and less than 100 hours a year on the tractor. The tractor gets a garage, which the car doesn't. It shares a garage with my old car...(a permanent resident of the garage).... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

TresCrows · Jun 24, 2004

( ( I think you should sell that rust bucket. )

Probably should...but it's so dang rusty nobody would buy it, ha, ha.

You act like I'm being overly picky, but I paid almost as much for this tractor as I paid for my Audi A6, and I certainly think one should get better quality for that much money.

If I was in business or something and just "used and abused" the tar out of it and got rid of it when it no longer worked, wrote it off as a business expense, and got a new one, it would be different. To the contrary, I bought this thing to be the last tractor I ever buy. I gotta make it last.
)

Soooo, you think I am being to picky at your being to picky, huh /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. ? J

5030 · Jun 24, 2004

I just can't resist replying to the rust deal....

My buddy just bought a NH TCDA 40. It was sitting outside and it has rust on the ROPS, the plastic knobs are faded as well as the paint on the hood. There is rust on the exhaust pipe and the 3 point is rusty.

I guess if you are a yuppie, rust looks bad. It won't deter from the operation of the machine at all. If you are "profiling" in your driveway to impress the neighbors though, it will. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Gatorboy · Jun 24, 2004

( I guess if you are a yuppie, rust looks bad. It won't deter from the operation of the machine at all. If you are "profiling" in your driveway to impress the neighbors though, it will. ) 

My tractor has nearly 8000 hours on it and has never been under cover. It's of course rusty and faded, but it still runs like a champ -- which is what I need it for. I'm not taking mine to any Antique Tractor shows, that's for sure.

rwsr50 · Jun 24, 2004

Well, a yuppie is the furthest thing from what I am. In fact, calling me a yuppie is fightin' words. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

And I could care less about keeping up with or impressing the Jones's. Heck, I drive an 85 truck and a 99 car. One of my tractors is 56 years old, and the one the 2230 is replacing is 30 years old. That should tell you something.

Anyhow, the rust may not keep anything from working...right now...but it serves no good purpose either and can only get worse.

My Son and I restored an 80 CJ7 a couple summers ago. Had it completey apart and started from the bottom up. You should see the rust coming out everywhere on that already! It's just that I HATE rust. Like I said, it serves no good purpose.

On that note, I am done ranting about rust. I'm gonna go help TresCrows repaint his tractor, ha, ha. That way maybe he'll return the favor and help me do mine after the rust spreads. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

art · Jun 24, 2004

Talk to the dealer about the amount of rust and tell him that it is a problem to you. It does happen on all tractors and makes but there are ways to cure it.

5030 · Jun 24, 2004

gatorboy:

Is that you when you were a "little nipper"??

polecat · Jun 24, 2004

3 BIDS!!!!!!! U R NUTS!!!!!...COME TO MAINE AND I'VE GOT SOME WORK 4 U 2 DO!!!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

ON second thought u better not !!!u might have a stroke id u saw the rust on my tk and cut!!!!!..guess it s a maine thang!!!!

lotsa salt in the winter!!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Gatorboy · Jun 24, 2004

( Is that you when you were a "little nipper"?? ) 

No, that's my son putting in my new battery this past April. Notice he is using the "right tool for the job" -- a vise grips. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

rwsr50 · Jun 26, 2004

I said I was done on this matter. Well, I lied!

Went to touch up the rust spots on the BRAND NEW 2230 this morning, and when I hit the rust with a wire toothbrush-sized brush prior to painting it, the gray paint started coming off in sheets! The metal underneath is bright and shiney, but there is absolutely zero adhesion between the metal and the paint. It just ain't stuck to the metal!

The time has come to contact Kubota on this matter!!!

Rowski · Jun 26, 2004

( but I paid almost as much for this tractor as I paid for my Audi A6, )

Wait till your A6 needs some repairs...That will be a disappointment.

Junkman · Jun 26, 2004

this isn't rocket science.... if you are not happy with the tractor, take it back to the dealer and tell him to make it right. Call Kubota USA and let them know the problem. It isn't something that can't be fixed and you are now making a mountain out of a rusty mole hill. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif