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Medscape, November 21, 2023

Study Confirms Link Between Red Meat and Diabetes Risk​



The actual Study:
"Over 5,483,981 person-years of follow-up, we documented 22,761 T2D cases. Intakes of total, processed, and unprocessed red meat were positively and approximately linearly associated with higher risks of T2D."

By their own numbers leas than one half of one percent of the people in the study were associated with T2 diabetes. Whereas 10-20% of smokers get cancer.
It sounds like whoever wrote that paper had a preconceived conclusion. (n)

Still rocking the Keto and Turmeric. My lower a1c has relieved about 90% of my arthritis in 6 months of this dietary change. I do take a joint supplement but the supplement alone was not doing much until the diet change.
Been learning about the importance of proper Zinc levels in the body in relation to insulin control. Important for you men with prostate problems too.

Maybe we should share the supplements we take?
 
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Scootr, I already take zinc, good idea
 
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By their own numbers leas than one half of one percent of the people in the study were associated with T2 diabetes. Whereas 10-20% of smokers get cancer.
It sounds like whoever wrote that paper had a preconceived conclusion. (n)

Still rocking the Keto and Turmeric. My lower a1c has relieved about 90% of my arthritis in 6 months of this dietary change. I do take a joint supplement but the supplement alone was not doing much until the diet change.
Been learning about the importance of proper Zinc levels in the body in relation to insulin control. Important for you men with prostate problems too.

Maybe we should share the supplements we take?

You are looking at the numbers wrong. You might be comparing people with people-years?

By the end of the follow-up periods, nearly 22,800 people developed type 2 diabetes, and those who ate the most total red meat had a 62% higher risk of developing the disease, compared with people who ate the least. Eating the most processed or unprocessed red meat was linked with a 51% and 40% higher risk of type 2 diabetes, respectively.



The Keto diet - "More Heart Trouble for the Keto Group After an average of nearly 12 years of follow-up, individuals on a keto-like diet had more than double the risk of having several major cardiovascular events, such as blockages in the arteries that needed stents, heart attack, stroke, and peripheral arterial disease."
 
   / Diabetes #434  
There are as many variations on a Keto diet as there are people. Certainly a diet of red meat only is going to have some bad effects. My Keto diet staple is chicken and vegetables. Monitor your health to know what is best for you.
 
   / Diabetes #435  
'Keto', is that some oriental person? me, I'm totally carnivorous. No vegetable and fruit diet here. Gimme lean beef anyday. I do consume fruit but in moderation and so far at 74 years old, no issue with it and I tend to consume meat that I have raised myself or shot during season.
 
   / Diabetes #436  
'Keto', is that some oriental person? me, I'm totally carnivorous. No vegetable and fruit diet here. Gimme lean beef anyday. I do consume fruit but in moderation and so far at 74 years old, no issue with it and I tend to consume meat that I have raised myself or shot during season.
Keto is responsible for bringing down my a1c which was bordering on type 1 diabetic.
Home grown beef and wild game are good protein sources. A balanced diet is important for a long life. It's easy to get out of whack and have weird little problems as we age.
You need to mix in a salad :D
 
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Scoot, I do eat salads with every home meal. Wife insists and I comply and usually topped with Raspberry Vinaigrette. Helman's brand.

Not so much when eating out unless it's a good beanery. Got deathly ill from a tainted salad once long ago and that reminder is always there.
 
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that bad Mexican lettuce with e coli likely got you 5030.
certain veggies I will only buy organic and even that doesn't guarantee you cleanliness.

at least half our plate should be veggies. I think we all know that.
but do as I say, not as I do...
Half veggies, a quarter starch and a quarter meat/protein.
pretty simple to remember.
too often due to my love of bread I'm at a quarter veggies, half starch and a quarter meat/fish
and since starch often turns into sugar, that comes back to bite you in the butt.

was told I was my own worst enemy by primary doc a month ago.
As he sat there smugly without an additional ounce on him, insinuating I just needed better control.
well thanks for telling me something I didn't already know Doc...

just got home today from three week rv trip. Ate out much more than normal.
Restaurant food is loaded with fat, sugar and salt.
but the crab remoulade was worth it
 
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