dmccarty
Super Star Member
TimberXX,
Well, you got the Chevy/Ford/Dodge debate going. Again. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Everytime this question comes up the comparisions start between gas vs diesel. Sometimes the comparisons are valid and sometimes not depending on what YOU need/want.
Many times people will compare the mpg between a gasser and a diesel where the gas engine is "small" meaning around 4-5 liters while the diesel are around 6 liters are larger. If all you want is a truck with good mpg this maybe a valid comparison. BUT if you do any towing/hauling and the comparison needs to be between gas and diesel engines that will perform the work then the diesel wins the mpg battle and the work battle.
Even if you don't haul/tow if you need/want a fullsize PU with a Crew Cab, 4x4, and a eight foot bed I think the diesel will win the mpg comparison with gas. It mgiht be different today but when I was shopping for a new truck in 2001 the MPG difference between a small Ranger/S10 like PU with 4x4 and the diesel I wanted was minimal in my book. Some of the small PUs where getting low 20's mpg. That small difference and the fact that I needed to be able to carry two kids in child seat plus two adults ruled out a small truck. The mpg is a full size PU with a gasser was in the low to mid teens. It may be different now though.
What I bought was a Ford 2002 F350 SRW 4x4 Crew Cab with an eight foot bed. Last time I was on the quarry scales I was 7,700 pounds. The truck is maybe 200 pounds lighter now. My drive is aroud 70 miles a day. About 50 of those miles are rural 55 mph driving and the rest is or can be in heavy traffic. I'm getting between 19.5 to 20.5 mpg. I don't but my foot into pedal and I keep it pretty much at 55 mph.
Cost to own. Diesel in my area moves around in price compared to gas. Sometimes its around the price of premium sometimes its down near 87 octane gas. Most of my gassers I have run premium since I cant stand gas engines knock. I like diesel Clack Clack Clack. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif So for me diesel is cheaper fuel.
I change the oil and filter two to three times a years. I use Shell 5wx40 synthetic( Lets not start the oil debate! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) This stuff is about $13 a gallon so it costs me roughly $60 for an oil change. $120-180 per year. I just put in a new fuel filter and air filter. They where expensive, something like $20-$30 but the fuel filter is every 15,000 miles or there abouts the air filter I think is every 50,000 miles or some such.
I squirt some lube grease in as well. They only other money taken buy the truck has been windshield wiper blades and I just put a new set of tires on the truck. This Ford has been the best and cheapest vehicle I have every had. 50,000+ miles and no problems. Nothing. Its only cost consumables.
You pay more for the oil burner engine but it holds it value and you will get the dollar back when you sell the truck.
Later,
Dan
Well, you got the Chevy/Ford/Dodge debate going. Again. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Everytime this question comes up the comparisions start between gas vs diesel. Sometimes the comparisons are valid and sometimes not depending on what YOU need/want.
Many times people will compare the mpg between a gasser and a diesel where the gas engine is "small" meaning around 4-5 liters while the diesel are around 6 liters are larger. If all you want is a truck with good mpg this maybe a valid comparison. BUT if you do any towing/hauling and the comparison needs to be between gas and diesel engines that will perform the work then the diesel wins the mpg battle and the work battle.
Even if you don't haul/tow if you need/want a fullsize PU with a Crew Cab, 4x4, and a eight foot bed I think the diesel will win the mpg comparison with gas. It mgiht be different today but when I was shopping for a new truck in 2001 the MPG difference between a small Ranger/S10 like PU with 4x4 and the diesel I wanted was minimal in my book. Some of the small PUs where getting low 20's mpg. That small difference and the fact that I needed to be able to carry two kids in child seat plus two adults ruled out a small truck. The mpg is a full size PU with a gasser was in the low to mid teens. It may be different now though.
What I bought was a Ford 2002 F350 SRW 4x4 Crew Cab with an eight foot bed. Last time I was on the quarry scales I was 7,700 pounds. The truck is maybe 200 pounds lighter now. My drive is aroud 70 miles a day. About 50 of those miles are rural 55 mph driving and the rest is or can be in heavy traffic. I'm getting between 19.5 to 20.5 mpg. I don't but my foot into pedal and I keep it pretty much at 55 mph.
Cost to own. Diesel in my area moves around in price compared to gas. Sometimes its around the price of premium sometimes its down near 87 octane gas. Most of my gassers I have run premium since I cant stand gas engines knock. I like diesel Clack Clack Clack. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif So for me diesel is cheaper fuel.
I change the oil and filter two to three times a years. I use Shell 5wx40 synthetic( Lets not start the oil debate! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) This stuff is about $13 a gallon so it costs me roughly $60 for an oil change. $120-180 per year. I just put in a new fuel filter and air filter. They where expensive, something like $20-$30 but the fuel filter is every 15,000 miles or there abouts the air filter I think is every 50,000 miles or some such.
I squirt some lube grease in as well. They only other money taken buy the truck has been windshield wiper blades and I just put a new set of tires on the truck. This Ford has been the best and cheapest vehicle I have every had. 50,000+ miles and no problems. Nothing. Its only cost consumables.
You pay more for the oil burner engine but it holds it value and you will get the dollar back when you sell the truck.
Later,
Dan
