Do we need a warm garage....

   / Do we need a warm garage.... #101  
Very well stated!!!!

I used to try to keep my wood stove going all night in my shop. That meant stocking it with wood and shutting it down tight. I had to clean my chimney several times each Winter. Well,,,,, I got older and more lazy. Now I let burn out in the evening and depend on the propane furnace to keep things warm til morning. I quit doing that "just before bedtime" stocking of the stove. Now I clean my chimney at the beginning of the season and it's good all Winter. I was building 90% of that creosote/soot with that last burn of the night because of having it shut down so tight.
That's word for word what I went through.
 
   / Do we need a warm garage....
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#102  
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We have a LOPI stove with single wall pipe going into a square masonry chimney with clay liner.

I use a chimguard magnetic thermometer and keep it in the orange.


Always burn oak and hickory that's been split sitting under a canvas tarp for 5 or 6 months.

Clean everything every other year and don't get a whole lot. Most build up is in the tin pipe.

Now isn't that a nice Sat. afternoon picture, got the family dog in it, fire going, couch on both sides and some old time Christmas songs playing in the back ground waiting for the wife to get the beans and hot dogs ready for super. Makes me want to lay down and take a nap and wait for super to. :thumbsup:

Think I might get one of those things and see if I can get it in the orange.
Amazon.com: EXCITING EASY TO READ GRAPHICS. Chimgard Stovepipe Thermometer model 3-4. Durable genuine porcelain enamel with yellow, orange and red zones clearly indicated on black case -- shows safe flue temperatures at a glance. CALIBRATED FOR FLUEPIPES: Home & Kitchen
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #103  
Now isn't that a nice Sat. afternoon picture, got the family dog in it, fire going, couch on both sides and some old time Christmas songs playing in the back ground waiting for the wife to get the beans and hot dogs ready for super. Makes me want to lay down and take a nap and wait for super to.

Think I might get one of those things and see if I can get it in the orange.
Amazon.com: EXCITING EASY TO READ GRAPHICS. Chimgard Stovepipe Thermometer model 3-4. Durable genuine porcelain enamel with yellow, orange and red zones clearly indicated on black case -- shows safe flue temperatures at a glance. CALIBRATED FOR FLUEPIPES: Home & Kitchen
From the looks of your picture, you will make it glow orange after you cook the paint off hahaha.

But in all seriousness, after starting a fire or putting wood in, I leave the air open till it gets to red and close it down to keep in the middle of the orange. I have checked it with my raytech temp gun and it's accurate.

I never really considered it "exciting". I think the most positive thing I could call it would be "useful". Made in USA too.
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #104  
I use a similar magnetic thermometer on my flue, and use a HF infrared to get a better feel for what the stove is doing. The magnetic thermometers usually max out at 900 degrees, but they will fall off the flue before that. Your glowing red flue was likely over 1000 degrees.
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #106  
My wife's parents had an old farm house and I would come over while we were courting. They had a wood stove in the kitchen and one night I noticed the pipes were probably half as red as the previous poster's picture. I looked and saw some of the wood around the transition piece was charred. I kind of chuckled about it and mentioned it went about my business but it was scary. Nothing ever happened but it was memorable.
 
   / Do we need a warm garage....
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#107  
I emailed Selkirk Corp. yesterday with some concerns/questions with some pics. about my chimney pipe, like to stay somewhere near the safety parameters, guess it's fair to say that it's not a professional installation but in some ways better, like he says every 8' should have wall supports and bands, I didn't measure it but I'm darn close with a 22ga. mid floor pipe flashing that has a 1" high lip that is clamped to the pipe but later I will add some more bands.

"The insulated chimney pipe is rated for 1000 degrees continuously, 1400 degrees for one hour, and 2100 degrees for 10 minutes 3 times in an hour. The purpose of the insulation in the chimney is not to keep the chimney outer surface fr"om getting hot. The insulation is there to reduce the clearances to combustibles to a minimum of 2”. The surface of the chimney will get hot. I don’t know what type of stove pipe you have. I believe it may be a little too thin for a wood stove. The stove pipe that we manufacture is 22 gauge. Looks like you could use more supports. Wall bands are required every 8’. The piece of wood is under the tee is a fire hazard.
I hope this helps explain some of your questions."


AND>>> "Also I wanted to add that you may want to purchase a stove pipe thermometer. The stove pipe temperature should be regulated to 300-350 degrees. This will help prevent over heating the chimney system.
Best Regards,"
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #108  
I emailed Selkirk Corp. yesterday with some concerns/questions with some pics. about my chimney pipe, like to stay somewhere near the safety parameters, guess it's fair to say that it's not a professional installation but in some ways better, like he says every 8' should have wall supports and bands, I didn't measure it but I'm darn close with a 22ga. mid floor pipe flashing that has a 1" high lip that is clamped to the pipe but later I will add some more bands.

"The insulated chimney pipe is rated for 1000 degrees continuously, 1400 degrees for one hour, and 2100 degrees for 10 minutes 3 times in an hour. The purpose of the insulation in the chimney is not to keep the chimney outer surface fr"om getting hot. The insulation is there to reduce the clearances to combustibles to a minimum of 2”. The surface of the chimney will get hot. I don’t know what type of stove pipe you have. I believe it may be a little too thin for a wood stove. The stove pipe that we manufacture is 22 gauge. Looks like you could use more supports. Wall bands are required every 8’. The piece of wood is under the tee is a fire hazard.
I hope this helps explain some of your questions."


AND>>> "Also I wanted to add that you may want to purchase a stove pipe thermometer. The stove pipe temperature should be regulated to 300-350 degrees. This will help prevent over heating the chimney system.
Best Regards,"
Haha he said keep it in the orange
 
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#109  
Threw the floor, underside, couple of these pics. gonna have to zoom and brighten to see them.
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Top of floor flashing, clamped and sealed with stove caulking, the clamp bolt is on the back side, you have to turn your laptop to see it.
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This is threw the roof, like after I feel when I let my wife win an argument.
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   / Do we need a warm garage.... #110  
I have a outside wood boiler that heats the house and my pole barn high 50 low 60s is comfortable to work in.
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #111  
I have a outside wood boiler that heats the house and my pole barn high 50 low 60s is comfortable to work in.

I'm a wuss. Needs to be high 60s to low 70s for me. I like my work material and tools to be warm. I also work in a T-shirt. Right now it's 14 degrees outside and 67 in my shop.
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #112  
I'm a wuss. Needs to be high 60s to low 70s for me. I like my work material and tools to be warm. I also work in a T-shirt. Right now it's 14 degrees outside and 67 in my shop.
The building is insulated roof and walls. Higher temps = more wood yesterday it was 57 in there and that was good enough for me. I will be getting 12 cords of wood sometime this week. I hate getting my fingers cold that just ruins the day for me.
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #113  
The building is insulated roof and walls. Higher temps = more wood yesterday it was 57 in there and that was good enough for me. I will be getting 12 cords of wood sometime this week. I hate getting my fingers cold that just ruins the day for me.

Insulation is the key to success. More so than the type of heat used. My shop is well insulated and free of drafts. It's 23,000 cubic feet of space. I'll not burn 12 cords of wood.
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #114  
I'm a wuss. Needs to be high 60s to low 70s for me. I like my work material and tools to be warm. I also work in a T-shirt. Right now it's 14 degrees outside and 67 in my shop.

I'm not too comfortable working in a T-shirt because I like some arm protection. Sitting in the house, I like the temperature to be over 70 but working I start to sweat when the temperature gets over 60 so I have to shut my wood stove down sometimes. We all have our quirks.
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #115  
I'm not too comfortable working in a T-shirt because I like some arm protection. Sitting in the house, I like the temperature to be over 70 but working I start to sweat when the temperature gets over 60 so I have to shut my wood stove down sometimes. We all have our quirks.

I work mostly with metal. After ruining a couple hundred long sleeved shirts and twice catching myself on fire wearing lined flannel shirts, I go sleeveless. :D
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #116  
I work mostly with metal. After ruining a couple hundred long sleeved shirts and twice catching myself on fire wearing lined flannel shirts, I go sleeveless. :D
Yeah, the skin grows back. The shirts have to be replaced if you burn off the sleeves. ;)
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #117  
I work mostly with metal. After ruining a couple hundred long sleeved shirts and twice catching myself on fire wearing lined flannel shirts, I go sleeveless. :D

Same here, but I learned to wear a weldor's cape when welding and roll my sleeves up when I'm running a lathe, mill, or anything else that could pull me in by a caught sleeve. But I prefer short sleeves when the weather allows.:laughing:
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #118  
Yeah, the skin grows back. The shirts have to be replaced if you burn off the sleeves. ;)

You'd be surprised how fast you can get a shirt off when it's on fire!!!!!! :eek: :D
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #120  
Sometimes you guys scare me...:eek:
 

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