Dog vs. cat vs. cops

[RoyJackson]

what comes first self defense or discharging a gun ?

For the cops on site, it would be discharging the gun. They would know (obviously), someone discharged a firearm right off the bat. They wouldn't know if it was justified untill after an investigation.
For those of you who do carry, or even keep a gun in the home...if you ever have to use it in self defense, you'll likely be arrested. Say NOTHING until you've contacted a lawyer!! You may be entirely justified in your actions, but don't let your mouth talk you into more serious charges.

 

[YesDeere]

Only 7 words should ever be spoken in that circumstance.

I WAS IN FEAR FOR MY LIFE.

 

[RoyJackson]

Only 7 words should ever be spoken in that circumstance.

I WAS IN FEAR FOR MY LIFE.

Suggest you say "Before I say anything, I want to consult with my attorney" instead.

 

[Iplayfarmer]

That is a valid point...and doesn't apply just to civilians. Shooting while under stress doesn't make for good aiming.
As a gun owner (and I do carry a handgun), I know that if I need to defend myself, the range is likely to be well under 10 feet. Even at that short range, shots can go wild (try it sometime...set up a man sized target 10 feet away, draw your pistol and (without aiming) fire off 5 rounds or so).

Even if the bullet hits the intended target dead on accurate it's likely it will go through and continue on to hit something else.

 

[RoyJackson]

Even if the bullet hits the intended target dead on accurate it's likely it will go through and continue on to hit something else.

Not really...most expend their energy passing through the first several inches of tissue and bone.
Heck, you're from Idaho...you should know that.

 

[LBrown59]

How would you feel if the story ended differently? Maybe the bullet glances off the dog's skull and hits a neighbor kid who has run over to see the commotion, or the dog owner's foot. Then what?
1*Isn't that a reasonable example for the for restrictions on firearms discharges in populated areas, or within so many feet of a road, house, etc.?
2*How many gun owners would be willingly to swear that no accident will ever occur as a result of their choices?
Dave.

1*Just tell the guy shooting at me that.
2*Well certainly not the criminal element.

 

[RoyJackson]

How would you feel if the story ended differently? Maybe the bullet glances off the dog's skull and hits a neighbor kid who has run over to see the commotion, or the dog owner's foot. Then what? Isn't that a reasonable example for the for restrictions on firearms discharges in populated areas, or within so many feet of a road, house, etc.? How many gun owners would be willingly to swear that no accident will ever occur as a result of their choices?

Most reasonable folks aren't going to fire a weapon in a populated area unless it's an emergency of some sort (and to this lady, that was an emergency...and I'd have done the same thing if I was in her place).
Otherwise, your attitude is typical leftwing "guns are evil".

 

[Iplayfarmer]

Not really...most expend their energy passing through the first several inches of tissue and bone.
Heck, you're from Idaho...you should know that.

I suppose it depends on the firearm. Most self defense pistol rounds would probably not exit. As an EMT I'm used to seeing entrance AND exit wounds. Of course most of what I see are hunting or target shooting accidents, not pistol shots.

 

[RoyJackson]

I suppose it depends on the firearm. Most self defense pistol rounds would probably not exit. As an EMT I'm used to seeing entrance AND exit wounds. Of course most of what I see are hunting or target shooting accidents, not pistol shots.

Yes, it does. A high powered rifle round might well do a through and through.
However, this topic was discussing a pistol.

 

[Car Doc]

Sorry lady my car was in neutral and ran over your kid but I didn't mean to do it the car is what killed the kid not me.

"The dog owner claimed her boyfriend had been walking the dog when either the leash or the collar broke, and according to the police, that was an ACCIDENT, and not NEGLIGENCE."

I can imagine the difference in scenarios kid vs pet - its the broken leash not the dog that killed the cat or kid. (stupid idiots)

She did the right thing buy shooting the dog even if her cat was dead already imho the next bite could have been her or someones kid.