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[Bob_Young]

Well said, tree guy. Everyone gets more than enough reasons to go around kicking himself. No need to create another.
Bob

 

[RodgerF]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I've eaten a lot of spaghetti and beans to get the tractor I wanted... )</font>

You say that like it's a bad thing /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[ronjhall]

<font color="blue"> Man, am I going to get slammed - oh well, nice knowing y'all</font> /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Well, I think I said the same thing. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Just didn't use as many words. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Even my 1954<font color="red"> Farmall </font> Cub had position control. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Hope it will not stop you from posting in the future. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[CT_Tree_Guy]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I've eaten a lot of spaghetti and beans to get the tractor I wanted... )</font>

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You say that like it's a bad thing /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif )</font>

Rodger -

Thanks for pointing out a politically incorrect statement which I now regret having made.

To all:

I'm deeply sorry if I offended any particular ethnic group with that comment, particularly any Italian-Americans who might have read my ill-considered remarks. I have always admired people of Italian descent and count many of them among my very good friends. I also would like to say that I firmly believe that the consumption of grains and legumes is a sound part of a healthy diet.

I regret implying that eating those foods constituted some sort of hardship on my part, and will say that for the first one thousand times I thoroughly enjoyed them.

Sincerely,

John D. DeHuff

And Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[CT_Tree_Guy]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Well, I think I said the same thing. Just didn't use as many words. )</font>

Ron - Yes, you were MUCH more succinct in your remarks - I'll have to study your posts carefully for tips on how I can "tighten up" my posts a little. As my Mom would say, I "must have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle". /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Hope it will not stop you from posting in the future )</font>

Wishful thinking on your part my friend! I'm afraid you're all going to have to put up with me for a while yet. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Oops, one more thing - I finally figured out how to reference a post - duh, a URL is a URL /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Here it is: B3030 vs. B7800

In re-reading it, I realize that Bird had already pointed out the 2600/2900 rpm thing - sorry to take credit where it wasn't due /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[dlroy101]

Being a quarter Italian I was personally offended that you would mix beans with pasta and ruin the pasta. However, I believe you may have also offended some Cajuns with including pasta with their beans. What a mess you've created!!! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Don't touch potatoes, because I'm Scottish or Irish too.

Now I'm off to eat some turkey and spend some more time dwelling on what tractor to get.

Darrell

 

[CT_Tree_Guy]

Darrell -

I would like to assure you that the pasta and beans were consumed in different sittings - even a simple tree guy such as myself would never commit such a faux pas. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Enjoy your holiday, and try not to stress too hard about the tractor, things have a way of working out.

 

[Posterboy]

The B7800 looks like the favorable one. The extra HP will be used when moving rocks and clearing trees through those rolling hills. The HP for the B7800 is actually 30 HP @ 2600. There is a misprint on that and other typos in the specification sheet on Kubota’s site. The B2410 would still work with smaller bites.

 

[cart99]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The B7800 looks like the favorable one. The extra HP will be used when moving rocks and clearing trees through those rolling hills. The HP for the B7800 is actually 30 HP @ 2600. There is a misprint on that and other typos in the specification sheet on Kubota’s site. The B2410 would still work with smaller bites. )</font>

Just make sure not to overlook PTO HP also. Kubotas give up *lots* of HP to the hydro-trans. B7800 PTO hp is 22 and B3030 is 23.

 

[cart99]

>>> I've eaten a lot of spaghetti and beans to get the tractor I wanted...

Ha! Same thing here, but extend that beyond just the tractor to "house/land, horses and trucks", and at our house it's mac & cheese and hot dogs. (i'm Irish, German and Austrian/Hungarian, so not sure who I'll be offending, or maybe I should be offended. If I'm supposed to be offended someone please let me know! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif)

 

[Posterboy]

cart99

I agree with ya on the hydro and PTO HP. The nice thing about the hydro’s, if you start taxing the engine too much you can just ease up on the pedal until you recover RPM.
Now, if only they put the redesigned B3030 hydro in the B7800… yeah then they could call it the B7830.
/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Posterboy

 

[gowings]

At least your staying with a good tractor brand, of course each of our situations arn't the same. If you have time to wait, I'd get a good used 3/4 or 1 ton truck and then purchase a larger tractor 3830 or larger, if you buy small, you will be sorry later.

 

[CT_Tree_Guy]

Darrell:

B7830. B7830. In conclusion, B7830. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif


To all: Dang, as I just said in a msg to Darrell, I wish Kubota hadn't gotten gotten rid of the foot clutch, it makes his decision tough again, just when we had it all figured out for him /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I must say that for me, the clutch on my 5030HST is about as useful as Congress, but then I have never once used the PTO and maybe never will ("dedicated" implement on back).

I will say though, that I found the clutch very useful when I was test-driving a Grand L GST in a dealer's parking lot and almost learned the hard way that the engine will win vs. the brakes every time. Mashed the clutch in just as I was about to go through his plate-glass front door - oopsie! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif Good thing for me, too - they have a strict rule - you break the dealership, you buy it. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

No such problems with hydro obviously - lift and stop.

I might as well put this link on here about the &$#@! clutch/pto question:

3030 clutch?

It would be nice to find an actual 3030 w/PHD owner - let's just keep shamelessly bumping this thread to the top of the list until we do /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

You know, if Kubota was REALLY smart they would read every post on this website. Pretty cheap, accurate market research.

 

[LeRoi]

I'll throw my 2 cents into the ring here. Having used both a 2410hst and a 7800hst with loaders to move dirt and logs the largest difference I found was not with horsepower, either one will run out of traction before it runs out of power. The difference is the 3 speed ranges. On the 2410 I was always shifting ranges, low to push and high to move. The 7800 likes the medium range to do most anything.
That gives the 7800 my vote to spend your money /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Leroy

 

[CT_Tree_Guy]

Just adding a link to a thread that backs up what cart said - the sweet-spot of choice seems to be about 2,200 rpm, so it sounds like the 2,900 stat is either wrong or meaningless.

B7800 rpm "sweet spot"

They should fix that typo, engine speed is an important consideration.

I like to pick out little nuggets like that from the stats. Here's one - the L4630 has the same displacement as the L4330, with the extra hp tweaked somehow. There's no replacement for displacement, I wouldn't even consider a 4630.

Come to think of it, I've heard too much about the 3130 being marginally powered to wholeheartedly recommend it anymore (Ramon49 aside). For Grand L's, that would leave the 3430, 3830, 4330 and 5030. You need to go to at least the 4330 to get the 853 loader, and 50 is greater than 43, so there you go Darrell - we're back in business - L5030 ... L5030 ... and in conclusion .... L5030!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[CT_Tree_Guy]

Ok, I really am trying to help here - I am so much more than JUST a pain in the a**

Here's a thread I started - I like the direct approach:

Calling all BXX30 owners with a PHD

And here's another pretty interesting thread, not really all that related to this thread, but could yield some relevant insights:

L3130 vs. L3430

AND - It recently occurred to me that we inquiring minds need to know more about what you, Darrell, plan to use the tractor for around the house in the 'burbs. This could play a big role in what tractor we decide you're going to buy. (hehe)

 

[cmhyland]

Alright,

Another Connecticut Italian/Irish guy weighing in here... I'd like to order the pasta and hold the beans....

Anyway.. As for which of these machines will be best suited.

The size difference in the frames of these machines will not
be a big factor in mobility cutting trails. When your new to
the tractor thing the slightly bigger machines look huge.

I remember the day my B2910 arrived. I looked at it on the truck
and said to myself "What have I done!"

It got small pretty fast.

Loader capacity is the key in my book.

Start moving rocks and you'll wish you had
3000 lb lift capacity real fast.

Rocks are really heavy.. I know it sounds stupid but
your wife points out a flat rock she wants moved and
next thing you know the rear wheels are coming off the ground.

Load your rear wheels for weight....

Good luck.

Maybe you can find a few of those $2000 FEMA debit cards laying
around in Washington and get the B3030..

Best of luck, I'm sure you'll love whatever you get.

Regards,
Chris

 

[dlroy101]

I took care of the towing issue today and got rid of my Frontier and got a Titan. Man that is a nice truck, but now I need to catch my breath. My pocket is hurting a bit. I know I could have done something used, but I've been there, done that enough.

At home in the burbs I'll run out of work real fast for the tractor, but I could see some of my neighbors that are friends (or not) wanting me to do stuff for them. I've got some shrubs to rip up, moving bulk mulch, moving gravel to underneath the deck, snow removal, etc. I would be the quirky neighbor looking for any excuse to start up the tractor and drive around, because I'm the only one in the neighborhood that has one. The homeowner's association would love me.

So, I'll leave you with this, I'm leaning towards the B7800 now.

Darrell

 

[cart99]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I took care of the towing issue today and got rid of my Frontier and got a Titan. Man that is a nice truck, but now I need to catch my breath. My pocket is hurting a bit. I know I could have done something used, but I've been there, done that enough.

At home in the burbs I'll run out of work real fast for the tractor, but I could see some of my neighbors that are friends (or not) wanting me to do stuff for them. I've got some shrubs to rip up, moving bulk mulch, moving gravel to underneath the deck, snow removal, etc. I would be the quirky neighbor looking for any excuse to start up the tractor and drive around, because I'm the only one in the neighborhood that has one. The homeowner's association would love me.

So, I'll leave you with this, I'm leaning towards the B7800 now.

Darrell )</font>

Glad to hear you upgraded your truck, that was by far your biggest problem. If you plan on running a post-hole digger, than all other things considered the B7800 is probably your best choice. It really is an excellent tractor for the money.