Ford 2000 On Trailer

[Harold_J]

Would a 7K car hauler be adequate to move a Ford 2000 (3 cyl) with loader about 100 miles?
My friend just hauled an MF 50 over 2,000 miles on the trailer in question with no problems, but there was no loader involved.
Now he is thinking about the Ford with loader on the same rig and 100 mile trip.

 

[sd455dan]

Would a 7K car hauler be adequate to move a Ford 2000 (3 cyl) with loader about 100 miles?
My friend just hauled an MF 50 over 2,000 miles on the trailer in question with no problems, but there was no loader involved.
Now he is thinking about the Ford with loader on the same rig and 100 mile trip.

Well I believe the 2000 weighs in under 4000# add the loader maybe 1500# (full framed 730) and that leaves the tires if calcium chloride loaded 800# = aprox, 6300#

Now if the tires aren't loaded- use the lower possible weight of the 2000 @3615# =4800# at a minimum I think if the payload rating of the trailer is a true 7000# should be OK...:thumbsup:

 

[GManBart]

The minimum weight for that Ford is 3,770 (call it 3,800 with fluids), the loader weighs 1200-1500lbs, and then you have the weight of the trailer. 7K trailers weigh at the very least 1,500lbs (open center), with many more like 2,000lbs. At the very least, the trailer will be maxed out....it just depends. Does the tractor have a canopy, loaded tires, etc? What does the trailer actually weigh?

 

[Diamondpilot]

I think its too much for it. A 7K trailer usually has a payload of 5000# to 5500#

Chris

 

[RickB]

I think its too much for it. A 7K trailer usually has a payload of 5000# to 5500#

Chris

I wouldn't put it on my 7K trailer. And I've hauled 5K a LOT and 5.5K more than a couple times. 5500lb doesn't look pretty on two 3500lb axles.

 

[sd455dan]

Would a 7K car hauler be adequate to move a Ford 2000 (3 cyl) with loader about 100 miles?
My friend just hauled an MF 50 over 2,000 miles on the trailer in question with no problems, but there was no loader involved.
Now he is thinking about the Ford with loader on the same rig and 100 mile trip.

the data plate on that trailer would help decide whether or not it can haul that 2000 Ford. I found my original 1968 sales flyer for 2-3000 tractors shipped weight is 3615 (3300 was low) the 3000 is 3790...View attachment 314336 I believe that is with all fluids except diesel and loading of tires If they are loaded ? The #s appear to be to close without the payload rating of the trailer, and whether those tires are loaded....

 

[tessiers]

I'd do it all open road, no problem. I have done way more damage to trailers right on the farm than on the road. Its the cutting and jigging that is hardest on trailers, racks the frames and puts side stress on the hubs and tires. Straight running on hot top is about as easy as it gets. Check the bearings, grease and lube everything and go for it.

 

[AndyL52]

I wouldn't think twice about it. I'd hookup and hit the road. We have a car hauler trailer that we haul equipment with implement with no problem.

 

[GManBart]

I'd do it all open road, no problem. I have done way more damage to trailers right on the farm than on the road. Its the cutting and jigging that is hardest on trailers, racks the frames and puts side stress on the hubs and tires. Straight running on hot top is about as easy as it gets. Check the bearings, grease and lube everything and go for it.

It's not about damaging the trailer. Just because running down the road won't hurt the trailer doesn't make it necessarily safe.

 

[Soundguy]

if the tires are unloaded and it's not a huge loader.. it's probably ok.

I can tell you I've for sure done it. but can also tell you that I got a bigger truck and trailer so that I don't have to do it anymore either.

i have an 850 with superior utility laoder on it and loaded 13.6-28 tires and a counterweight that probably weighs more than that 3 cyl and laoder.. and I've moved it on the trailer.. and only did so because i had a 1 ton pulling it... and knowing it was abusing the trailer too.. and it was a short 8m trip.. no way I'd do it on 100m

 

[Harold_J]

if the tires are unloaded and it's not a huge loader.. it's probably ok.

I can tell you I've for sure done it. but can also tell you that I got a bigger truck and trailer so that I don't have to do it anymore either.

i have an 850 with superior utility laoder on it and loaded 13.6-28 tires and a counterweight that probably weighs more than that 3 cyl and laoder.. and I've moved it on the trailer.. and only did so because i had a 1 ton pulling it... and knowing it was abusing the trailer too.. and it was a short 8m trip.. no way I'd do it on 100m

All I know is it's a Ford loader that came with it new. Would it be a 730 like another poster said? If so, are they easy to remove like the newer NH quick attach loaders or do you need a lift? I guess if we take the loader off the weight is then no problem. Would the loader fit in the back of the 1-ton pickup tow vehicle if we have another loader to lift it in or would we be making two trips? thanks.

 

[Soundguy]

Just because running down the road won't hurt the trailer doesn't make it necessarily safe.

i agree. many people may find an overloaded trailer, even if it does not hurt the frame, may be hard or ungainly to stop. Figure that the tow vehicle may be matched tot he trailer..and if the trailer is overloaded.. then the tow vehicle may be as well.

 

[Soundguy]

Just because running down the road won't hurt the trailer doesn't make it necessarily safe.

i agree. many people may find an overloaded trailer, even if it does not hurt the frame, may be hard or ungainly to stop. Figure that the tow vehicle may be matched tot he trailer..and if the trailer is overloaded.. then the tow vehicle may be as well.

 

[Soundguy]

All I know is it's a Ford loader that came with it new. Would it be a 730 like another poster said? If so, are they easy to remove like the newer NH quick attach loaders or do you need a lift? I guess if we take the loader off the weight is then no problem. Would the loader fit in the back of the 1-ton pickup tow vehicle if we have another loader to lift it in or would we be making two trips? thanks.

don't take this as advise.. as you are likely over the trailer rating.

me, personally.. with a 1 ton truck, and not in a hurry.. I'd probably put some contraption like that on and haul it, watching my stopping distances.. etc.

again.. as advise? i'd say it's not adviseable.

 

[sd455dan]

All I know is it's a Ford loader that came with it new. Would it be a 730 like another poster said? If so, are they easy to remove like the newer NH quick attach loaders or do you need a lift? I guess if we take the loader off the weight is then no problem. Would the loader fit in the back of the 1-ton pickup tow vehicle if we have another loader to lift it in or would we be making two trips? thanks.

If you can avoid it, I would leave that loader on , they are a full frame loader that attaches at the rear axle and to a plate that attaches to the front of the engine, But if the data plate on the trailer has you worried , you could de- pin the loader bucket and put that in the pick up bed..( and those buckets are heavy, double walled and reinforced, 400lbs.?) if it's like mine the loader arms have loops under them that u can hook a couple chains to to load un-load the bucket..

Also if you'r not sure whether the rear tires are loaded park the tractor with one wheel with the air fitting at the bottom and bleed the shrader valve, no fluid?? then haul it with the bucket in the bed, your weight should be just under4800 lbs. that should be ok even if the trailer is rated at 7k lbs. gross... unless that trailer weighs 2200 empty -I doubt it

 

[Soundguy]

mine weighs 1700# empty, with ramps.. etc. 16' car hauler wood deck, 7k rated.. etc... just for ideas.. etc.

 

[AndyL52]

Just because you have a drivers license and a car or truck, doesn't make you a safe driver. Safe driving is in the way you drive. If you're pulling something that is at max capacity or a lil above doesn't make it unsafe. It's the way you drive that would make it unsafe/safe. That goes for anything you're driving. Loaded or empty. It's all in your driving capacity/skills. If you can't think ahead, outside the box, and watch out for possibles ahead, then you shouldn't pull it. There are some that shouldn't even be on the road, let along pulling something. I would have no fear about the pull. Well not no fear. I always fear what the dummy at the intersection will do. But then again, I allow for that.

 

[RickB]

One consideration yet unmentioned is whether the trailer has working brakes on both axles. If the answer is no, the tractor should not be hauled on it, period.

 

[Soundguy]

i believe your argument has a fundamental flaw.

you claim that the safe / unsafe factor relies solely on the driver / habits, and NONE at all on the load.

If you have an unsecured load of say.. tree debris. and wind came by and knocked a branch off into the road / oncoming traffic. i don't see that as a issue of driving habit. I'd say that was an unsafe load.

can't have it totally focused on one or the other. safety is a combination of ALL factors.

 

[AndyL52]

Again Soundguy, that goes back to a driver that knows what he's doing. A good driver is gonna secure the load and then some. The load is not calling the shots. The driver is.
A tractor is not a tree limb. Tractor is easier to secure. lol Trees debris won't go anywhere if properly secured. (hitting the open road, should be tarped. Been there done that.) How did we go from tractor to tree anyhow. Just curious.

On another note, if someone needs to ask what their carrying capacity is. Then I would think the safest way is not to.