FRAM Filters...

[adirondackmtnman]

Gotta admit, I did get a good laugh.... thanks for that ! (Fram is not on the shelf anymore, in Eastern Canada at least. Not sure about US stores).

Fram probably just got tired of the abuse.... I can't imagine that you make much money supplying Walmart, and they have a rep for crushing suppliers, then taking over their businesses, esp. consumer basics.

Rgds, D.

They're still sold in the stores here in northern NY...I didn't know they even had Walmarts in Canada with the amount of Quebecers we see here. Prices must be significantly higher north of the border in general.

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[WilliamBos]

They're still sold in the stores here in northern NY...I didn't know they even had Walmarts in Canada with the amount of Quebecers we see here. Prices must be significantly higher north of the border in general.

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Don't shop there, but not all if us live within 30 minutes of the border.

No matter how cheap it is, not worth driving stateside.

 

[adirondackmtnman]

Don't shop there, bur not all if us live within 30 minutes of the border.

No matter how cheap it is, not worth driving stateside.

We see a lot of people buying large quantities of eggs, milk and such to take back with them, I've heard that milk is around $8/gallon up north but I don't know how true that is, just stories we're told

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[Midniteoyl]

Champion Laboratories Inc.

Fram bought Champ Labs. Logos on the bottom of the main page illustrate some of their latest acquisitions.

Smart that they are acknowledging past production issues.

Like many part sectors, 3 or 4 players (max) control most of the market.

Rgds, D.

All those filters are not made the same. I cut open a Fram Extra Guard and a Mobil 1. The Mobil was built MUCH better with metal end caps, more pleats, etc.. Same OEM does not mean same specs.

Personally, I use Purolater.

 

[Midniteoyl]

I feel the same way. Maybe that is why Walmart stopped carrying them, improved quality!?

Fram is still carried at my Walmart.. In fact, they take up about 90% of the shelf space.

 

[3930dave]

They're still sold in the stores here in northern NY...I didn't know they even had Walmarts in Canada with the amount of Quebecers we see here. Prices must be significantly higher north of the border in general.

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Many things are much higher priced here. Combine that with HST (13% in Ontario), and the ever creeping Eco fees (something like 30-50 cents on an oil filter, and, of course, you pay HST on the "Eco" fee), and it does add up. Not going to rant about the escalating taxes, except to say that it gives you pretty true insight into what is actually going on in the Ontario economy, as opposed to the noise coming out of Queen's Park.

Taxes are often even higher in Quebec.

I shop state side when I can. Yes, things like milk, eggs, flour are usually much cheaper. Price delta on standard (non-high perf) car parts is usually ridiculous.

I like Purolater Pure One oil filters. Wally World now carries Purolator here, but only Classic and Synthetic filters. Classic here at WW is priced not far off what Pure One goes for in Upstate NY.

So, you can begin to see why US retailers have been pushing into Canada, and why many Canadians shop stateside. If I had a mid-6figure job in Ottawa, I wouldn't care about Canadian prices, but few of us have won that lottery.

Rgds, D.

 

[WilliamBos]

I will pay the high price for Dairy. Our farmers run on a quota system, a huge investment up front, before one cow gets milked.

 

[3930dave]

Fram is still carried at my Walmart.. In fact, they take up about 90% of the shelf space.

I have no clue what Wmarts plans are, but Canada is often used as a test market. (Years ago Hyundai set up here first, in part to shake out their logistics and train their organization on N. American retailing, before going into the US market).

If nothing else, Wmart is surely using Purolator in Canada to beat more margin out of Fram in the USA. If Purolator generates good enough data in Canada (price/delivery), they may get a shot at replacing Fram on US shelves.

Rgds, D.

 

[WilliamBos]

I have no clue what Wmarts plans are, but Canada is often used as a test market. (Years ago Hyundai set up here first, in part to shake out their logistics and train their organization on N. American retailing, before going into the US market).

If nothing else, Wmart is surely using Purolator in Canada to beat more margin out of Fram in the USA. If Purolator generates good enough data in Canada (price/delivery), they may get a shot at replacing Fram on US shelves.

Rgds, D.

Interesting info...Thank you!!

 

[3930dave]

I will pay the high price for Dairy. Our farmers run on a quota system, a huge investment up front, before one cow gets milked.

I have mixed feelings about dairy Will - I have dogs on both sides of that fight, so won't go on further, as I would just be publicly proving I'm crazy (yeah, I know, too late ).

What I've grown really tired of, is that I can buy a basic car part in Upstate NY that is typically half the price of the exact same part sold in Ontario. The real kicker - many of the parts are actually made in Ontario !

Both my wife and I shop at Farmer's markets whenever we can, it's a little bit we can do to support local Ag. And, I get really p'od when CorporateGovernment (Galen and crew) tries to intefere with these local markets. Milk is a tough one to do, as the court cases have shown in the last few years.

Rgds, D.