Fuel storage

[denchen]

Just as a point of interest, here in the UK it is against the law to store more than 2 by 10 litres (about 4 gallons), of petroleum liquid, without a licence. Petroleum liquid is petrol, you call `gas` LPGs and other liquids like cellulose thinners. The licence is issued after inspection to satisfy the codes by the Local Authority, usually the Fire Brigade. Because of its lower Flash Point, diesel does not need a licence, however if it should get into the ground because of a leak, the Environment Agency all get excited, and often start prosecutions. If any contaminates get into the rivers or streams, well all **** breaks loose. As a point of note, the storage of `gas` in tanks above ground as shown above is `almost` a no no. There is only one storage facility in the whole country where `gas` is stored above ground that I know of, as the picture shows. Diesel storage above ground is common but usually contained by a `bung wall` to catch the contents in the event of a burst. Bung wall must hold the contents plus a third.

 

[Diggin It]

^^ That why lots of us left England and started over a few hundred years ago.

 

[iflywhatevr]

^^ That why lots of us left England and started over a few hundred years ago.

. What he said!

 

[Threepoint]

Denchen, very interesting. Thanks for the post!

 

[Big Barn]

Diesel storage above ground is common but usually contained by a `bung wall` to catch the contents in the event of a burst. Bung wall must hold the contents plus a third.

Pretty much the same here in Canada. Double containment walled tanks are required.

 

[TractorGuy]

Pretty much the same here in Canada. Double containment walled tanks are required. View attachment 571768

They are actually required here also but nobody goes around policing private parties. If enough spills occurred they would pass laws making it illegal to pump into any container not meeting code. That would make the suppliers the regulators. Hopefully it won't come to that.

 

[TnAndy]

Ouch! Do I sense some serious tank envy?

Apparently so...ahahahaaaa.

Not counting the tanks, (used, Craig's List, cleaned/painted by me)I might have 500 bucks in the concrete base and metal for the roof. The lumber came from trees on the place, sawed on my mill, and all the work done personally. I've found over the years one can stretch a small amount of material money a LONG way by doing all the labor yourself.

 

[3Ts]

It has been about 10 years now and the pump and tank are still pristine, no trash, condensate etc have ever been in the tank and I don't use any additives. I think as long as the tanks are kept inside where temperature doesn't fluctuate much, no condensate forms, thus no algae dangers.

I have a 36 gallon aux tank in the back of my pickup. It rarely spends anytime indoors in the 6 years I've had it. I pulled the aux tank yesterday to change the fuel pump because of a leak (in the fuel pump) and checked the inside of the tank as part of that. There is no rust, trash, etc. in it. It's nice new shiny steel just like it was when I bought it, but I also keep it full.

I've found over the years one can stretch a small amount of material money a LONG way by doing all the labor yourself.

And frequently get a better quality job done since you'll pay more attention to the small things that others won't care about.

 

[fried1765]

They are actually required here also but nobody goes around policing private parties. If enough spills occurred they would pass laws making it illegal to pump into any container not meeting code. That would make the suppliers the regulators. Hopefully it won't come to that.

I have a summer home in Canada.
The "Bylaw Officer" cruises around in his municipal pickup looking for just such offenders.
Mother Canada requires permits/inspections for EVERYTHING,(farting permits may be next) and is ALWAYS watching.

 

[09112]

Having lived in England for nearly 20 years, the first thing I noted when I returned to California was how cluttered the streets and roads were. This is what I never saw in England. England does have a lot of laws, some that many consider unnecessary, but lawmakers usually try to act rather than react. In the end the citizen is the benefactor. I get a bit touchy when I see the old country criticized because I have lived it in recent years.

 

[nyone]

Dont use IBC totes. There for temporary storeage and none are rated for fuel.
Use a steel 300gal tank or even a 275gal heating oil tank.

Im setting up a 55gal drum for fuel.

 

[Texasmark]

Sooo.. I've been looking for a small fuel "cell" to store more than 5 gals of diesel for my tractor and I am thinking about using a 250-300 gallon IBC tote. FYI, an IBC tote is a poly bulk fluid storage container sitting in a wire basket. Now keep in mind the basket is heavy duty, its got to support 250-300 gallons of liquids. I'm wondering if anyone is using one of these to store fuel and if so how to you have your tank set up to pump fuel? If you don't use an IBC tote does anyone use poly tanks or barrels? If you use this type of container do you get fuel delivered in bulk? I want to thank you for reading my post and your comments in advance.:thumbsup:

Now that I know that the popular blue 55 gallon drums are recycle grade 2 and the www tells me that one of the uses of that code is petroleum products the next time I need a barrel I will get poly rather than steel. Another supporter of using poly is the red plastic gas cans and yellow plastic diesel cans....bet they are #2s also.

On the tote, if over about 150 gallons (diesel wt x gallons </= 1000# to stay under DOT Has-Mat plackard requirements. I use 3 steel 55 gallon drums in an old trailer that's dedicated to the function. When empty, hook to my truck and go to town. Around here you can get sealable, clean steel for 20 bucks. Stick a TSC elcheapo 12v fuel pump, put a battery in the trailer that you have to charge ever so often and you are in business. If you feel frisky get an even cheaper hand operated pump. That will get old fast if you have any usage to speak of.

 

[Diggin It]

^^ How much do you expect to use in a year? Do you have any immediate neighbors that also use Diesel?

If your usage is enough and/or others are willing and able to share, consider have a fuel delivery company place a tank and deliver low sulfur off road tinted in bulk. Most farmers in rural areas do that. Generally a 500 gallon tank, but they don't get it filled each time. Bulk rates are sometimes 50 cents a gallon less than retail.

I'm buying that from a neighbor farmer for $2.50 a gallon right now.

 

[Texasmark]

Having my diesel tank filled AS WE SPEAK. Walked out to snap a picture on this beautiful early 斗ate summer morning? I guess the driver knows better to MAIL the invoice to the office and not spoil my morning

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Don稚 forget your additives.

That's the right one!

 

[iflywhatevr]

This is my new solution. I sold the cheaper thinner gauge TSC version and went with a Transfer Flow tank that came with a pump. Just added a 10 micron goldenrod filter. Sits in my garage on the pallet it came on in case I need to move it. Holds 110 gallons which is nice because as long as I order 100 gallons of off road diesel there is no delivery charge.

 

[Diggin It]

^^ $1,300.00 ?????


I don't think so Tim.

 

[iflywhatevr]

Paid 900 on sale. But to each his own.

 

[fried1765]

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This is my new solution. I sold the cheaper thinner gauge TSC version and went with a Transfer Flow tank that came with a pump. Just added a 10 micron goldenrod filter. Sits in my garage on the pallet it came on in case I need to move it. Holds 110 gallons which is nice because as long as I order 100 gallons of off road diesel there is no delivery charge.

Than grease gun needs a Lock-N-Lube on it!

 

[edgarrian]

Here is what I purchased https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200609589_200609589

I put it on a pallet for easy loading and unloading in the truck. It works great. I purchased this about 3 years ago with no regrets. Personally I hated using 5 gallon jug to fill with. I also at times rent an excavator or other equipment and this purchase just seems that much better. It looks like its gone up in price since the last time I purchased.

 

[iflywhatevr]

Than grease gun needs a Lock-N-Lube on it!

I agree just haven’t picked one up yet!