How do you cut metal for finished projects?

   / How do you cut metal for finished projects?
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#21  
Bikerdib, you are probably right on target with the OA torch tip. I got the torch set second hand. It was a complete set with several tips and torch attachments. I will check the tips tomorrow p.m. I am leaning toward the plasma cutter but I will give the OA torch another try. I have sufficient air with a dryer attachment that I have used to spray auto paint.
 
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#22  
The NC plasma cutter is a really cool tool! The first one I ever saw was in a shipyard where I worked in 1983. I've thought about the NC cutter as a retirement income tool.
 
   / How do you cut metal for finished projects? #23  
woodsmith, they haven't nicknamed you "old school" have they? That's definately doing it the old school way.

Josh, I took a piece of angle iron and cut it 3" long and hammered it closed enough to cradle my torch handle. I then welded a piece of 1/4" rod into the bottom of the cradle, making a pivot point. I sharpened a point on one end while it was long, then cut it so that my torch is held up about 1/2" above the plate I am cutting. So if I want a 14" circle I measure 7" from center of my tip to center of the point on the cradle and then lock the cradle down onto the torch handle with water hose clamps. Use a center punch to make a guide hole in your material, fire up the torch and put the sharpened point in your punched guide hole and start cutting and pivoting until you get around your circle. If you don't want a blowout hole from getting started, drill a small hole to start your cutting in. There is no weaving from an unsteady hand.

So then you lay your cut out circles flat on the table and grind down the top and bottom only, getting all slag off. Drill a 1/4" (or whatever size you choose) hole in the middle of your circle in that guide hole you punched. After drilling both plates, remove your drill bit and slide it through the holes you just drilled in both (or 3-4, whatever you feel you can handle) of the plates. Clamp a pair of vise grips to each side of the plates straight onto the drill bit to use as a stop and to give you a good set of handles.

Take a big sidegrinder and clamp it in your vise. Hold the trigger down and lock into place letting it run without touching it. Now pick up your circles holding both pairs of vise grips and grind the edges on the running sidegrinder.If you hold them straight into the grinding wheel they will gain speed and turn as fast as the grinder. Twist them sideways, it makes the grinder cut better and gives you control of the speed of your circles.

By grinding them all together and letting them spin on the drill bit they will come out all exactly the same and will be perfect circles. If the hole in the center bothers you, weld it up and grind it smooth.

My buddy actually bet me 5.00 he could cut a perfect circle with a torch. I thought about it for a minute and reasoned it would be worth 5 bucks to know how to do that, I didn't doubt him, just wanted to know how to do it. It worked. So now I have done the same to several others and got my 5.00 back more than once.

To anyone that reads this, please drop 5.00 in the mail...lol.
 
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6011 artist, I'm not going to send you the $5 because I've done something similar. The difference is that I made a turntable to rotate the plate which lets the torch remain stable. I rotate the plate instead of the torch. I've been thinking about adapting it to work with the plasma cutter but I really don't need to cut circular plates very often.

Ted, I'll bet that if you put a new tip in your torch you will be happy. Just remember not to go too big. You only need a tip big enough to cut the thickness you are working with. A bigger than needed tip just makes a sloppy cut.
 
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i cheat......this is the plasma unit i use. Its set up in my shop, and cant live without itView attachment 308216View attachment 308215View attachment 308214

grsthegreat

Nice set up. Did you build it by yourself or did you buy it ready made. I am considering to build a CNC plasma DIY but can't decide what where to get the parts.
There are several vendors that advertise on CNC sites but it is hard to find who is reputable and who isn't.
Advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ladia.
 
   / How do you cut metal for finished projects? #26  
Don't buy a plasma cutter with built in compressor unless all you want to cut is sheet metal. I bought one thinking it would be good for 1/4" stuff, wrong! Took it right back and bought a Hypertherm Powermax 30. Now I want a bigger one. If I could only have one tool in the shop besides the welder it would be the plasma cutter. I have grinders, cut off saw, horizontal band saw and sawsall and the plasma, it's the go to tool unless I'm cutting tube or pipe.
Like stated earlier, don't forget you will need a large compressor. It's like anything, one thing always leads to another!
I don't know how I got along without the bandsaw, the thing is handy. It was used, an el-cheapo that was given to me. I put a good blade on it and have cut tons on it.
I know this thread is about how to cut but another tool I find very valuable is my homemade press brake, very handy being able to make brackets and stuff. Just the other day I bent some 3/8" x 6" for a slip on 4 way wedge.
 
   / How do you cut metal for finished projects? #27  
My struggle is that I see the fabrication that some of you guys do and I can't seem to get parts cut consistently. For just cutoff of tubing, pipe, bar stock and angle I get consistent parts but things like gussets and flat parts it is a real bear. My parts seem to require endless grinding to get two parts to match dont mention the time involved in getting a third part to match.

It is sounding like the bandsaw maybe the better choice but I am open. My daughter, the artist, wants the plasma cutter.

Cutting sheet metal I am okay with and do okay with sheet metal fabrication. It is the heavier gauge and plate that is my greatest challenge. I don't plan on fabricating more than typical farm implements. I'm thinking about a grapple.

I appreciate your responses.

A grapple can be made using flat bar stock but will only be mild steel .

Gussets are only a matter of turning the clamp on your cut off saw or horizontal bandsaw 45* and cutting the steel on it's flat . Turn the clamp back to zero and then cut straight across . Use the stop and you will have perfect , matching gussets . It is a little slow doing this but you only need a few and it's not worth spending money on gear you may never use again ,

Use 350 grade or better for tine tips and maybe add some hard facing with an arc welder to the tips .
 
   / How do you cut metal for finished projects? #28  
grsthegreat

Nice set up. Did you build it by yourself or did you buy it ready made. I am considering to build a CNC plasma DIY but can't decide what where to get the parts.
There are several vendors that advertise on CNC sites but it is hard to find who is reputable and who isn't.
Advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ladia.

i purchased mine complete from Dynatorch quite awhile ago...like back in 2006.
 
   / How do you cut metal for finished projects?
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#29  
Thanks for all the replies. I expect I will start with a new set of tips for the OA torch first. The current tip is giving me a real crappy cut. I will also try some different wheels for the grinder.

I may add the plasma for Fathers' Day :thumbsup: it sounds like nearly everything I would do with the band saw I can do with the plasma cutter.
 
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