How steep is too steep (and how do I know)?

[bc realtor]

Jsust a thought to those whom are fearless . have a look at this. http://www.acamerica.com/backend/upload/carraro/web_files/32275.pdf

 

[dcyrilc]

Jsust a thought to those whom are fearless . have a look at this. http://www.acamerica.com/backend/upload/carraro/web_files/32275.pdf

The biggest thing I fear about that is the price.:laughing:

 

[lilranch2001]

Kinda cool, but I agree, I bet the price is up there, and it is strange, it gives no description of attachment capabilities

 

[woodlandfarms]

I was going to buy an Antonio until I got sticker shock. I am betting that machine sits around 55K and maybe as much as 75 given the machine I looked at them felt like 25K and was 47...

I have a machine rated at 45 degrees. I mow 35 max. It is friggin steep. scary scary scary. If you get off the tractor you just slide down the hill..

Not sure how guys do 45 on my tractor but I guess they do.

Also, I don't see an angle rating on the Antonio. Any ideas?

 

[dcyrilc]

Kinda cool, but I agree, I bet the price is up there, and it is strange, it gives no description of attachment capabilities

5291 lbs for the 3PH and 87 engine HP. I would guess around 75HP PTO. I would also feel pretty comfortable guessing Cat2.

 

[beemerphile]

A friend of mine had a nice AC TRH for sale for a great price and I almost bought it. What a beautiful machine it is and for hilly property like mine it would be a great machine. Even when bought for a great price in as-new condition, there were still a couple of issues that I had with it:

1) There are no Antonio Carraro dealers in Georgia
2) Although there are some loaders made for them, they are not strong.

The hill capability, push-pull set-up, articulation, oscillation, reversible operator position, etc, are world class. But if you have heavy loader work to do or it quits going buggida-buggida, well not so fun.

 

[bc realtor]

I have had a TTR4400 for over a year now and I will tell you it is far beyond the cababilities of any thing else i have ever driven on a slope. I get uneasy at about 35 degrees and have mowed around 40-42 with a bush hog.The best thing is the boom arm mower capabilities and the width make it great for working around hedges in tight areas ect. They are a cut with the capabilities of a municipal tractor. As for maintanence I do most of it myself and my local kubota dealer can handle anything that I can't. The tractor came with the mechanics manual.On my 2300lbs machine I can handle a 1400 lbs impliment and still be balanced for slopes.

 

[SkyPup]

Jsust a thought to those whom are fearless . have a look at this. http://www.acamerica.com/backend/upload/carraro/web_files/32275.pdf

WOW - what an awesome rig!!!

 

[flusher]

Thanks for all the advice. The problem with getting a tilt meter is that the numbers won't mean anything to me. What's the number where I should stop and back up the hill?

I have one of those little angle finder gizmos for carpentry. I held it at arms length and lined it up with the slope on the steepest part and it said 30 degrees. I took a picture of the steepest parts and drew in the horizontal and the slope as best I could. Would you mow this sideways?

30 deg is pretty sporty. I wouldn't try to mow sideways on that type of slope unless my tractor was specifically set up for that kind of work. For example my 1964 Massey Ferguson 135 diesel is set up to squat low for orchard work.



Those are 18.4 x 16 (18" wide, 16" rim diameter) rears loaded with water (no need for antifreeze here in the North Sac Valley) and the front axle spindles are shorter than normal so the tractor sets level with those 16" rims. The rear track width is 83" and the centerline of the rear axle is 20" above grade. So the squat ratio is 83/20=4.15. Compare that to my big tractor--a Mahindra 5525 with 28" dia rear rims--rear track width 71", height of rear axle 25", squat ratio 2.84.

As others have said, adjust your rears to maximize the track width. If you're still leery, consider a dually rear tire setup. Otherwise mow those slopes with a weed whacker and save yourself a trip to the ER or worse. All you need is for one of the downslope wheels to drop into a 6" deep depression while you're mowing a slope like yours sideways to roll your tractor.

 

[beppington]

Just thought a picture might help. If the pucker factor gets to much don't do it. Always use a seat belt regardless and if you do go over keep your arms and legs within the tractor area. This would not be a time to flail around.:thumbsup:

Those are of course without a grown man sitting atop it, another what 150 to 300 pounds of top-heavy-ness.