Hyd hose ends

[ch1ch2]

What kind of hose ends do I have on my NH 820TL? A bucket cylinder hose ruptured and blew hyd fluid all over me and my tractor. I have had leaks before but never a full blown rupture. After I got it shut down and changed clothes and showered, I went to remove the hose and get a new one made. The cyl end came off just fine. I was expecting it to be a pipe thread or a jic but it was neither. It had a tapered ball (if you will) inside a female nut acting like a swivel connection. Then I went to remove the other end in the manifold. After much studying of it I pulled a U shaped plastic keeper off, and pushed and pulled on the hose until the end just pulled out of the manifold. I have taken the hose to five places that make hoses and no one has ever seen those ends. One place was the local NH dealer. They said they would have to order the replacement and their computer does not say what ends are on the hose. Just that all four cyl hoses are the same size. Tractor has been down a week now and I am expecting a call tomorrow telling me the hose is in. Hope it is the right one.

 

[DT86]

Good luck

 

[STx]

Do you have a local NAPA? They recently made a replacement hose for my NH loader after I blew one out.

 

[ch1ch2]

Can't hurt to try NAPA. I really would like to know what kind of ends I have. I also would like to get some adapters so I can use common hose ends as a temp replacement so I won't have the extended down time.

 

[Leejohn]

The one with the ball looking inside is a female swivel pipe. It screws on to a male hyd. pipe thread.

 

[kennyd]

Can you post pictures? The agree with Lee above that the one with the "ball" is most likely a female pipe swivel, but the other end with a plastic keeper? I can't think of anything like that.

 

[ch1ch2]

No. It is not a NPT. We tried threading it at the hose maker. It only goes on a couple of threads and then it binds up. The treads are hard to see but they are not tapered. They are parallel.
The good news is you got me to thinking. About 20 years ago I changed out some hoses on my IH. It had British Pipe Thread. I dug through some old stuff and found what I think is that BPT. The problem is it is not tapered. I thought all pipe thread is tapered. So I do not know what I have.

 

[Leejohn]

Look around in here, should be able to find. Discount Hydraulic Hose

 

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[kennyd]

BSPP fittings have parallel threads, while BSPT have tapered threads.

British Standard Pipe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No clue on that other one, never seen that before.

 

[banjodunn]

G'day you beat me to it Kenny it looks like BSPP to me if your hyd shop doesn't have bspp a bspt fitting should tighten up on your fitting, don't know the other end but at work we have what we call lifesavers which is a hose barb end that can be welded onto your orig fitting gets us out of trouble with odd fittings like that also is that T piece off your loader ? It looks like a normal plumbing fitting you should change it for a hyd one as they are not rated for hyd pressures.


Jon

 

[Leejohn]

The other end looks like some kind of coulper.

 

[STx]

Those look like the ends on the hose I had to replace on my NH last week. NAPA had them in stock and made the replacement hose for me in about 5 minutes.

 

[ch1ch2]

Alright, I guess I have BSPP on the one end. The T was off the IH. It fit. It was just for reference. It has been upgraded to a Hyd manifold with JIC fittings.
I checked with NAPA and they did not have them. I hope it was just that store. I will continue to check NAPA. Now that I know what it is I can call around.
The "other end" Well? Maybe when I find a NAPA that has the BSPP It will have the other end. If so, I will get the name and post it here.
There is one of the other hoses on the the tractor that has been welded. I guess that is one of the those "lifesavers"
Thanks guys You all have been a lot of help.

 

[ch1ch2]

The good news.
Napa did not have the fittings but they referred me to a hyd shop whom also did not have them but were able to make fittings using the old fittings. They put new JIC ends on the ends. Now I can attached a hose with JIC fittings.