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Jim's Pole Barn Project - hopefully
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Re: Jim\'s Pole Barn Project - hopefully
Jim, I would leave any bracing that you can. Unless it is in the way of putting up your horizontal boards I would leave it.
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Jim, I would leave any bracing that you can. Unless it is in the way of putting up your horizontal boards I would leave it.
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Re: Jim\'s Pole Barn Project - hopefully
I've seen that contractors don't put the cement in the pole holes until they have a good part of the frame built. They just leave the bracing up. I guess this gives them a little nudges if the poles are a little off.
What do you all think about that? Most telephone poles aren't perfectly straight and it might be a good thing to have them a little loose to square them up?
gary
I've seen that contractors don't put the cement in the pole holes until they have a good part of the frame built. They just leave the bracing up. I guess this gives them a little nudges if the poles are a little off.
What do you all think about that? Most telephone poles aren't perfectly straight and it might be a good thing to have them a little loose to square them up?
gary
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Re: Jim\'s Pole Barn Project - hopefully
Jim ,
Leave the bracing on until you've got the trusses and decking in place . In fact , if you can add longer braces to the poles . You'll be adding girts and headers to those poles and it tends to move them A LOT ! After you get your girts and headers on , run a string along the header at 1-1 1/2 " . reset the poles as required . then install the trusses . After the trusses are set , recheck the line .( putting braces from the bootom chord of the truss to the base of each pole also helps lock things together ) Also, before you deck it pull a diagonal measurement from peak to gable end (truss tails )
both ways . I know it sounds overly complicated . But you get a square and plumb building . Also check the corner poles for plumb,and brace them diagonally after the girts and heaqders are in place . All the best , John
Jim ,
Leave the bracing on until you've got the trusses and decking in place . In fact , if you can add longer braces to the poles . You'll be adding girts and headers to those poles and it tends to move them A LOT ! After you get your girts and headers on , run a string along the header at 1-1 1/2 " . reset the poles as required . then install the trusses . After the trusses are set , recheck the line .( putting braces from the bootom chord of the truss to the base of each pole also helps lock things together ) Also, before you deck it pull a diagonal measurement from peak to gable end (truss tails )
both ways . I know it sounds overly complicated . But you get a square and plumb building . Also check the corner poles for plumb,and brace them diagonally after the girts and heaqders are in place . All the best , John
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Re: Jim\'s Pole Barn Project - hopefully
If you want to increase the life of your poles, don't use concrete at all. Put a foot on the bottom of your pole to keep the wind from pulling it out, and just tamper in soil, or rock and soil.
If you want to increase the life of your poles, don't use concrete at all. Put a foot on the bottom of your pole to keep the wind from pulling it out, and just tamper in soil, or rock and soil.
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Re: Jim\'s Pole Barn Project - hopefully
Jim , not many folks concrete their poles in . One reason is as you mentioned ... you may need to true the poles . The other is that if you pour a concrete slab it'll lock the poles together as if you'd poured the holes . As was mentioned before ... nailing anti lift blocks on the poles would be nice . But, as you've set your poles ..... a bit of rebar drilled into the poles below finish level in the concrete will work fine . John
Jim , not many folks concrete their poles in . One reason is as you mentioned ... you may need to true the poles . The other is that if you pour a concrete slab it'll lock the poles together as if you'd poured the holes . As was mentioned before ... nailing anti lift blocks on the poles would be nice . But, as you've set your poles ..... a bit of rebar drilled into the poles below finish level in the concrete will work fine . John
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Re: Jim\'s Pole Barn Project - hopefully
Jim,
Looks like you're making great progress
Jerry
Jim,
Looks like you're making great progress
Jerry
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Re: Jim\'s Pole Barn Project - hopefully
Things must be a little more relaxed there as far as the permit process. Where I live, the building would not get through the engineering review stage if the poles were not cemented. The cement not only prevents the building from being lifted - it also provides shear strength.
Things must be a little more relaxed there as far as the permit process. Where I live, the building would not get through the engineering review stage if the poles were not cemented. The cement not only prevents the building from being lifted - it also provides shear strength.
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