Kioti

[Beeenvenue]

Clarification to Indyjay’s nice spreadsheet on page 1. The 2610/3510/4010 is 63.5” wide with r4 or r14 tires. The width he shows is with ags.

to the OP - I bought a 3510 hst se in 2019 after 6 months of looking and testing. By far the best value for the money that I found combined with nice controls and cockpit layout, which is what sold me. The thought of 8-12 hours in an open ROPS tractor bushogging in 100+ heat is daunting enough without the mess of a treadle pedal, solid seat without springs, or cramped cockpit.

to those who say 5% doesn’t matter I’d agree but for a $20,500 unit in 2019 the kubota 3301 was 23500 and 3901 was 25500. Splitting the difference for the difference in hp is 4K - that’s 20% and definitely was a factor in choice.

 

[wrath]

Where is here? Around these parts "Michigan" Kioti does NOT lose 30% of its value when you drive it off the lot.In fact they hold there value very well.In southern Michigan most Massey dealers have left the state for whatever reasons.I used to own a Massey 1240 back in 2006 I sold it as there was no dealer support.

So I just did a search for a few Kioti compacts and subcompacts on Facespace Marketfarce for 80 miles within Ann Arbor, MI. Looks like low hour (less than 120 hours a year) ones are listed for 25-35% off new ones I find on TractorHouse. Since 2018, the US dollar is worth nearly 20% more so it actually makes it look even worse. What's going to happen when they re-align and the tractors have to get more expensive?

Tractors are like new construction houses. They should never depreciate more than 8-10% and then at worse never appreciate but usually tick along with inflation. In fact, if you play the rebate game it should never actually depreciate at all. Excess wear or abuse can cause it to be devalued, but it should never depreciate. Look at tractors from 30 years ago and they're selling for what they cost then, inflation is what causes them to look "cheaper".

 

[Aquabird]

I bought a new MX 5400 Kubota 13 months ago. I had a 1991 Ford tractor that I really liked before that, so it was not my first.
The Kubota I got was not that much more than the 3901, but had a lot more HP and lifting for the FEL.
I really love it so far. I have hydro drive and 4wd. I like how much bigger the axles were than the Kubota 3901 and the extra lifting capacity for the bucket.
I am sorry I cannot compare it to the kioti. My New Holland dealer tried to sell me a kioti when I went to look at the New Hollands. When I went to another New Holland dealer he directed me towards Kubota. Then I went to still another dealer only about 5 miles away and bought my Kubota and saved a lot of money with all the deals they had going on. Low interest rates, money off tractor with loader, money off second implement and I could have and should have gotten the extra money off thru the equestrian program.

 

[coobie]

So I just did a search for a few Kioti compacts and subcompacts on Facespace Marketfarce for 80 miles within Ann Arbor, MI. Looks like low hour (less than 120 hours a year) ones are listed for 25-35% off new ones I find on TractorHouse. Since 2018, the US dollar is worth nearly 20% more so it actually makes it look even worse. What's going to happen when they re-align and the tractors have to get more expensive?

Tractors are like new construction houses. They should never depreciate more than 8-10% and then at worse never appreciate but usually tick along with inflation. In fact, if you play the rebate game it should never actually depreciate at all. Excess wear or abuse can cause it to be devalued, but it should never depreciate. Look at tractors from 30 years ago and they're selling for what they cost then, inflation is what causes them to look "cheaper".

H,mm still never fully answered the question where is here? Are you a politician ?? I don't go into a purchase thinking by god what is this tractor or piece of equipment going to be worth in 5 years.I purchase for the long haul.Maybe you are not the type that does..Do you even own a tractor or the type that just barks numbers/figures to seem important ??

 

[AcrossTheHoller]

Get the Kioti! I am proud owner of a 2020 ck2610. Would get a kubota only if i was willing to pay the extra for the brand name. And i dont do that. I also wear whatever jeans fit. Walmart, or whatever

 

[paulfun9]

H,mm still never fully answered the question where is here? Are you a politician ?? I don't go into a purchase thinking by god what is this tractor or piece of equipment going to be worth in 5 years.I purchase for the long haul.Maybe you are not the type that does..Do you even own a tractor or the type that just barks numbers/figures to seem important ??

He is most likely still under the illusion that we all pay asking price for the kubota and JD. I love that type when I sell something it’s especially profitable in the Harley arena, more fools willing to hand me big profits based on adds they see and not knowing I picked it up two weeks ago for almost half what thier paying me today.

On here I tell the truth, but if you come to buy a used kubota I will pretend thier worth more if the buyer is foolish enough to believe it. I will also gladly take the fools money and go buy something else in hopes I can find an other sucker to pay extra for when I sell it.

Problem is people are getting smart and walking past right to the LS, Mahindra, Kioti down the street that’s priced fairly to begin with.

 

[kantuckid]

H,mm still never fully answered the question where is here? Are you a politician ?? I don't go into a purchase thinking by god what is this tractor or piece of equipment going to be worth in 5 years.I purchase for the long haul.Maybe you are not the type that does..Do you even own a tractor or the type that just barks numbers/figures to seem important ??

I will be either dead & gone or setting records for oldest tractor man in 30 years. I goota say you have the USD value ass backwards at increasing 20% since 2018. I bought some Walmart Kahn's German Bologna today and one version had increased from $2.96lb to $5.43lb. At he eye doc I was told what 'll call the deluxe implants are $3,100 per eye plus surgery stuff-they've gone up by a quantum leap since my wife's implants in 2013. Any tractor I buy will easily outlast me.
My grandest desire is that after I buy a new one soon, my old one will sell as high as the idiotic price points I'm seeing now.

 

[wrath]

H,mm still never fully answered the question where is here? Are you a politician ?? I don't go into a purchase thinking by god what is this tractor or piece of equipment going to be worth in 5 years.I purchase for the long haul.Maybe you are not the type that does..Do you even own a tractor or the type that just barks numbers/figures to seem important ??

How do you think I'd know to pick Ann Arbor, Michigan? You sound like a salesman. Probably bought your tractor at Budd's. Certainly combative enough.

The residual value on any asset is a good indicator of its perceived quality and demand. If people are willing to pay more for it later as compared to a similar widget, then there is a reason for it. It could simply be perception, but that perception was developed for a reason and may not be relevant anymore. Doesn't matter if it's a Kia Sportage, a Canon L-series lens, or a Kioti tractor. Nobody wants a Sportage, everyone would rather have a Canon premium lens over a Sigma, etc.

I have several tractors, but the largest one is a Massey 2135.

 

[coobie]

How do you think I'd know to pick Ann Arbor, Michigan? You sound like a salesman. Probably bought your tractor at Budd's. Certainly combative enough.

The residual value on any asset is a good indicator of its perceived quality and demand. If people are willing to pay more for it later as compared to a similar widget, then there is a reason for it. It could simply be perception, but that perception was developed for a reason and may not be relevant anymore. Doesn't matter if it's a Kia Sportage, a Canon L-series lens, or a Kioti tractor. Nobody wants a Sportage, everyone would rather have a Canon premium lens over a Sigma, etc.

I have several tractors, but the largest one is a Massey 2135.

Ann Arbor go figure the looney libatard town I should have figured it out that explains a lot.No on budds tractor Michigan Iron and equipment for my purchases.I can see you shopping at Aeschilmans they seem up your alley.Post the pics of all of your large tractors you use in Ann arbor love to see them.

 

[wrath]

Ann Arbor go figure the looney libatard town I should have figured it out that explains a lot.No on budds tractor Michigan Iron and equipment for my purchases.Post the pics of all of your large tractors you use in Ann arbor love to see them.

Are you a special kind of of stupid, or do you just pretend for us so we can laugh? I didn't say I lived in Ann Arbor, but maybe reading comprehension is something that you do not care for and just jump to conclusions that suit your narrative. The largest tractor I have that I use, as stated, is a Massey 2135, which by no means is a large tractor.

What made you go all the way up to Morrice, the home of scared sheep and Lainsburg's rejects, to buy a tractor if you're from "southern" Michigan?