Kubota BX series ridiculous transmission

[PUSHINDIRT]

Like shrekbelly, I got every dollar I paid when I traded up my machine. It really was a shame because the BX series is a great machine for so many uses. I ended up with the 2920. Since then I've driven a BX25 and it seems like the problems have been eliminated.

 

[Tom_H]

This thread has been pruned...we can do without the insults.

Thank you. I'm glad the mods took note.

 

[James Loehr]

I have ranted on this several times on this board, felt better after rant. I am not sure if I can live with it. I love my BX24, don't want to trade up or down. Can't spend any more money. But I fear of the one day I may live to regret this decision. All it takes is a simple backing up while mowing in the high gear with pedal down halfway and then let go. even trying to feather it, the pedal is not always smooth and the jerk comes. I have to be physically prepared for the jerk so my body doesnt get hurt in the wrong way when looking behind me when backing up. It's murphy's law- if it can happen, it will even if you tell yourself over and over to remember it.

I just want some sort of a add on or fix or tranny replacement and keep the rest of the same tractor.

Just like you all I wanted was my 2350 fixed to work like it should only to have it come back from the dealer after doing the Kubota magic fix much worse. It still had the jerk in reverse but now it would creep in forward every now and then. After the dealer and Kubota playing the blame game and me in the middle I finally gave in and traded to the 60 series. It don't matter if one thinks this is a problem or not it once again is a fun driving without having to modify normal driving habits or hoping I don't forget feather out the pedal. If there any justice in this my dealer handles another brand that has a subcompact and if asked they will recommend that brand becouse that company is willing to work with there customers and that is good for them also. For my part after dealing with the Kubota rep and sales manager on this issue all last winter I'm done buying anything from these poeple. Nothing against the product or the dealer.

 

[timswi]

That original video is absurd. It's obvious he doesn't know how to operate compact tractor. If I tried hard enogh, I could do the same thing with by BX. It really only takes a few times to get the hang of the HST. Does it stop quick, yes. If it didn't, there would be trouble as well. I am perfectly happy with the operation of my machine. The brakes aren't going to stop this thing on it's own anyway.

My RTV500 has a harder VHT stop than the BX, and I got used to that as well, in fact I appreciate it now.

Some people should stick to push mowers..The non-motorized kind, they would probably find a way to decapitate themselves with a mechanical one.

Ugh.

 

[LBrown59]

Just love these ones.

Re: Kubota BX series ridiculous transmission
Looks like I lucked out buying a BX23... except for the air cleaner bracket, it's been flawless.
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[TheFlatlander]

That original video is absurd. It's obvious he doesn't know how to operate compact tractor. If I tried hard enough, I could do the same thing with by BX. It really only takes a few times to get the hang of the HST. Does it stop quick, yes. If it didn't, there would be trouble as well. I am perfectly happy with the operation of my machine. The brakes aren't going to stop this thing on it's own anyway.

My RTV500 has a harder VHT stop than the BX, and I got used to that as well, in fact I appreciate it now.

Some people should stick to push mowers..The non-motorized kind, they would probably find a way to decapitate themselves with a mechanical one.

Ugh.

Actually the video isn't really that bad. and is just showing something that they now will happen. Did you want to watch the other hour of easy mowing, before to get to this point of the video. I am sure that they are smart enough to try to avoid this on a regular basis. Seriously, why should a tractor do this? In addition, I really want to get a similar utility vehicle as you have, but if it has similar reverse stop characteristics I think I will be looking elsewhere. There is no reason for this. The next generation BX corrected this so it isn't annoying or any type of safety issue. Do not let my comments take away from your self control and ability to enjoy your equipment, as I have previously posted that many people enjoy and do not know that there is a difference in operation. I find similar dissatisfaction with Kubota on this, as I feel that they are better than this. It's really a shame that the OP can not find satisfaction to his disappointment as he isn't the only one out there experiencing this same situation.

 

[KubieTwo]

. Seriously, why should a tractor do this? In addition, I really want to get a similar utility vehicle as you have, but if it has similar reverse stop characteristics I think I will be looking elsewhere. There is no reason for this. The next generation BX corrected this so it isn't annoying or any type of safety issue.

Many people apparently lack one or more of: equipment operational knowledge, skills, common sense, appendage coordination, and other characteristics necessary to operate machinery. These same types of people suffered "...sudden, unintended acceleration...", reported underpowered 5 cylinder automobiles going 50 mph in reverse out of parking spaces, supposedly with foot on brake, ...they stick their hands in obvious pinch points, ...and injure themselves with ballpoint pens. They tag everything as a "safety issue" and the rest of the world gets to live with design changes that work poorly but still do not protect the group of incompetents from themselves. I agree with others who have stated that most of these should recognize their inabilities and stick to the recliner, if they can do so without hurting themselves.

I have an almost 40 year old Wheel Horse hydrostatic yard tractor that will raise the front end at least a foot if operated in reverse and suddenly released to neutral as someone described above as "removing my foot" or something like that. I have raised the wheels in skid steer vehicles as well. You do it once and adapt your technique.

If I drove my truck with the same lack of control (ineptness?) most in the "unsafe group" describe, there is no doubt I could leave a wake of carnage behind me. Do I need government regulations or engineering changes to "protect" me? No!

Knitting requires sharp objects and is therefore dangerous to some. For those, should the the needles be redesigned to prevent injury? I think not, any more so than I think most of what is defined in this thread is a problem that needs serious "fixing." Tractors, lawn mowers, scissors, knitting instruments, and other dangers should be avoided by those without the necessary skills. If you have a gasoline powered push mower, you will indeed inflict pain if you put your foot under the deck with the engine running. You can still do so with the blade brake design, so removing the blade is the best answer, but please pay someone to do it. There is no nice way to say this. Sorry, but you can't fix some things. There is a song describing at least one of them.

 

[wawajake]

Well said Kubie !

I further think those that are complaining should make sure their posts specifically state the exact model they are talking about and not just off the cuff state " BX trouble"

because their painting with such a large brush causes the marketplace to think all BX"s have problems , when actually only a very few old models might have problem.
I don't need incorrect information to lower the resell value of my BX tractor (BX2660 ) which has had no problems.
I would appreciate if my Kubota brothers would be sensitive to how they state their concerns.

jake

 

[EE_Bota]

I did not read all the posts...but I read most of them. (Someone called--company soon.)
I have a BX2200, and it's pretty smooth. It has a SINGLE pedal for reverse and forward and I can control the pedal quite reliably.
I was looking at the BXxx50 series on their site when it came out. Some of the features I liked. But when I saw the pedal setup I thought..."who's idea was that?" I think a single pedal is a better option. Quicker direction changes while being smooth.
At any rate, most hydrostats I have seen, the amount of torque you get out of the wheels is a direct (by very high) multiple of the spring tension on the pedal. The spring returns the pedal to a neutral position against the reaction force that the pump swash plate generates. Too quickly, it's exactly like slamming on the brakes.
If there is no spring tension to adjust, then you are down to relief valve pressure adjustments. That will also effect the total amount of torque you get out of the wheels. So...it's really a bad deal all the way around, and I am very sorry you have to deal with it.

I live in central North Carolina. If there is a member nearby who has the problem, AND a service manual, I would love to drive over and take a look.

Best of luck!

 

[98ramtough]

This thread cracks me up. As far as the tractor safety? I mow in shorts and sandals, have for years! Start PTO when your on tractor, stop before you get off. Seems simple to me???

Anyway, back to the subject. I looked hard at the BX1850 and BX2350 before getting my JD 2305. I THANK everyone on TBN for suggesting I try the reverse and pretend I was mowing. I am not sure if all of them are the same, but the 1850 I test drove was HORRIBLE! I laughed and walked off after letting off the reverse petal. The 2350 was a little better but still not like any other HST tranny tractor I have ever drove.

My JD 2305 tractor I can be in high gear mowing and let off the reverse petal and it stops but does not jerk at all. Smoothe as can be front and back.....