Kubota or John Deer

[Rdrcr]

On the way to the Yanmar dealer I stopped in a kubuta store and kicked a few tires. I looked at a L3301 I think it was. Right away I knew that was what I wanted. They wanted right at $31,000. That was taxes and the other little charges that they all add on and a new spreader box too. If I financed it you could take the $1200.00 rebate and also they had a $300.00 rebate on the secong implement for a $1500.00 total rebate. That knocked it down to somewhere in the $29,000.00 range. I was almost ready to do the deal when I asked him about used tractors, he didn't have any but he said they had a L2501 in delaware that only had 52 hours on it with three years warranty left on it. He showed me a pic of it and it hardly looked used at all, all the paint was still left on the bucket. I thought about it for awhile when he said, I'll have it sent down here so that I could take a look. 25hp vs 33hp is a lot in some respects but in my case I don't think it will matter much. I'm going to look at it good when it gets to town and decide then.

The L2501 is a great tractor. I highly recommend it.

Plus, if you need/want more HP, it is easy to modify for more power. My L2501 has been fantastic and is now producing 35 PTO HP with a Turbocharger kit.

Mike

 

[turbo36]

I don't think even the biggest 3 series JD's will lift 1500lb to well, but will probably lift a full bucket of gravel good enough, with some 3 pt weight.

I went with the least hp in a bigger frame which isn't bad for dirt work, general mucking around stuff, wheelbarrowing dead cars around, lifting things. Not so good for running a round baler, and I wonder how it would do with a 7' snowblower since we are getting 1' snowfalls of dense snow this year.

Typically Kioti, Mahindra, Branson give you the lowest price/pound of tractor, and kubota and JD seem to cost the most/pound. But figure out what dealers are in your range, and then collect some specs and prices on the models you can get and see what you come up with as the "winner". Then take if for a test drive to see if its comfortable to you.

I would say its usually better to go bigger than you think, unless want to cut the grass with it, or get into some tight spots.

I know for a fact that my Deere 2038 will lift 1500 pounds to full height.

 

[tacticalturnip]

I know for a fact that my Deere 2038 will lift 1500 pounds to full height.

That's impressive for a loader rated for just under 1200 pounds; this is assuming you're running the 220R.

 

[4570Man]

I know for a fact that my Deere 2038 will lift 1500 pounds to full height.

I’d be impressed to see a picture of that tractor lifting 1500 pounds at all and definitely to full height. Your ground level lift capacity at the pins is 1950 pounds and the 500mm forward capacity which is more representative of the true ability is 1360. The full height lift at the pins is 1120 and the 500mm forward capacity is 803. That specs pretty similar to my LA524 Kubota loader. The Kubota loader can lift 1200 pounds of concrete sacks with the bags stacked single file up against the forks to maybe 2ft high. If I had a lighter duty set of forks that was a better match to the tractor maybe I could lift 1500 pounds off the ground but full height isn’t happening.

 

[scaredychicken]

You need to compare apples to apples (machines with like specifications) and answer that question yourself. Bang for the buck is highly subjective based on the features that each buyer values.

AMEN, nuff said

On the way to the Yanmar dealer I stopped in a kubuta store and kicked a few tires. I looked at a L3301 I think it was. Right away I knew that was what I wanted. They wanted right at $31,000. That was taxes and the other little charges that they all add on and a new spreader box too. If I financed it you could take the $1200.00 rebate and also they had a $300.00 rebate on the secong implement for a $1500.00 total rebate. That knocked it down to somewhere in the $29,000.00 range. I was almost ready to do the deal when I asked him about used tractors, he didn't have any but he said they had a L2501 in delaware that only had 52 hours on it with three years warranty left on it. He showed me a pic of it and it hardly looked used at all, all the paint was still left on the bucket. I thought about it for awhile when he said, I'll have it sent down here so that I could take a look. 25hp vs 33hp is a lot in some respects but in my case I don't think it will matter much. I'm going to look at it good when it gets to town and decide then.

THAT is the sign of a GOOD Dealership, awesome service... and the sale isn't even made yet

 

[Yander]

I'm also a fan of Yanmar and a bit biased but I like what was said about a good local dealer. At your age you may not be servicing the tractor long. I know you are about the age my dad was when he could no longer service things well. He had some physical limitations though.

Consider that and check out the local dealers and perhaps buy the dealer service vs. the tractor. You won't often hear me say that either.

But to answer your question as you asked it, I would go with Kubota if all things, dealers etc. being equal.

 

[turbo36]

I’d be impressed to see a picture of that tractor lifting 1500 pounds at all and definitely to full height. Your ground level lift capacity at the pins is 1950 pounds and the 500mm forward capacity which is more representative of the true ability is 1360. The full height lift at the pins is 1120 and the 500mm forward capacity is 803. That specs pretty similar to my LA524 Kubota loader. The Kubota loader can lift 1200 pounds of concrete sacks with the bags stacked single file up against the forks to maybe 2ft high. If I had a lighter duty set of forks that was a better match to the tractor maybe I could lift 1500 pounds off the ground but full height isn’t happening.

Picked up my counter weight that is on a wood skid and put it on the pallet rack. I know it weighs just under 1,500 lbs. I have the light weight pallet forks. My system pressure was adjusted right at the upper limit by my dealer when he delivered the tractor.

 

[turbo36]

Picked up my counter weight that is on a wood skid and put it on the pallet rack. I know it weighs just under 1,500 lbs. I have the light weight pallet forks. My system pressure was adjusted right at the upper limit by my dealer when he delivered the tractor.

Now that I think about it it was my 3720 that I used put the counter weight on the pallet rack. The 2038 will still do a lot of work for it's size.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Now that I think about it it was my 3720 that I used put the counter weight on the pallet rack. The 2038 will still do a lot of work for it's size.

No doubt it's a workhorse, but the 3720 makes more sense.

 

[IndyIan]

On the way to the Yanmar dealer I stopped in a kubuta store and kicked a few tires. I looked at a L3301 I think it was. Right away I knew that was what I wanted. They wanted right at $31,000. That was taxes and the other little charges that they all add on and a new spreader box too. If I financed it you could take the $1200.00 rebate and also they had a $300.00 rebate on the secong implement for a $1500.00 total rebate. That knocked it down to somewhere in the $29,000.00 range. I was almost ready to do the deal when I asked him about used tractors, he didn't have any but he said they had a L2501 in delaware that only had 52 hours on it with three years warranty left on it. He showed me a pic of it and it hardly looked used at all, all the paint was still left on the bucket. I thought about it for awhile when he said, I'll have it sent down here so that I could take a look. 25hp vs 33hp is a lot in some respects but in my case I don't think it will matter much. I'm going to look at it good when it gets to town and decide then.

These guys have the newer version of my tractor, a NS4710 but with shuttle shift for $31k. https://www.tractorhouse.com/listing/for-sale/221185637/2022-kioti-ns4710-40-hp-to-99-hp-tractors
HST would be a bit more. This will lift 1500lbs pretty easily, still need a counter weight though. Depends what you are doing of course, and if you have a good local dealer that will get close to this price, but for equal dollars I'd get another 1000lbs of tractor. You can use good size implements and do most full size utility tractor chores. Downside is you may not be able to tow it as its probably 5500lbs with the loader and the average implement. Also its 6' wide if you are making walking trails in the woods.