Landscaping tasks, looking at a BX24, will it be enough? Pictures included!

[Dusty]

He is correct that the warranty is only good in the US, and that the US dealer can't register a warranty to a owner that is in Canada. You can purchase here using a US address and bring it into Canada after you pay your Canadian taxes. Kubota will have no idea where the tractor is, unless you tell them. You could also have a residence in the US where the tractor is used part time and the other times it is in Canada. If that were the case, then the Canadian Kubota dealer might do warranty work if it became necessary, but I doubt that the dealer in Canada that you talked to would. The only difference that I could see that would make the price different is the dollar exchange. I doubt that the Canadian dealer is paying substantially more than a US dealer, excluding transportation. This is the reason for the trade agreement between the US and Canada. It is supposed to level out the prices on both sides of the border. I say to buy it in the US using a US address, and bring it to Canada. Pay your taxes, so you are legal. You might have to pay local sales taxes in the US, so that will also be a consideration. You would probably be exempt from the US taxes if you use your Canadian address. There are so many variables that you will have to run the numbers for yourself. I know that Canadians purchase cars in the US and bring them to Canada. I once bought a Parrisian.... For those that don't know what that is, it is a Canadian Pontiac built on a Chevrolet chassis. That was back in the 1960's... Don't know if they are still built like that today.
Dusty

 

[Carl_NH]

Taiser,

The local dealer seems to hold a hard line (and doesn't sound like he wants/needs your business) SO, your choices are to go south and buy from the US dealer or look at other alternatives. I would suggest that you ask the US dealer for 3-4 references in Canada to attest their experience and if this is satisfactory get your warranty concerns written up in the bill of sale.

In my experience there are minimal problems with these machines and most of us run out of warranty years before the hours. I didnt note if you have a trailer but this would make the transit to/from USA relatively easy for any warranty issues that do arrise.

One other point - not to alter your position or continue the BX>B>L>M, but as an owner of the B21TLB for 6 years I wanted to post this as an alternative - the B21 is nearly 2X the specs of the BX24 lifting, (926 vs 518) digging, (3700 vs 1900) overall weight (4100 vs 1700) and has a hardtop to boot for those snowy/rainy days, plus steel under carriage protection and US price about $26+-.

The downside to the B21TLB is no mower capability, no removable front loader, but since you have the Cub for mowing this is not an obstacle. Also HP is only 21 but this is not a limiting factor.

Good luck in your pursuit of the tractor you need, and you should not in my opinion be held hostage by the local dealer.

Carl

 

[Dusty]

I own a BX and I have also operated the B21. The only thing that I didn't like about the B21 is that I didn't own it. They are a great machine.
Dusty

 

[Timber]

You know if it were me and I only wanted a BH for pulling stumps I would buy a 30 plus horse tractor with a tach all, rear remotes and a Nice root grapple. You have a nice size piece of property and you already have a small tractor. BH is a cheep rental. A bigger tractor with a tach-all and remotes for the same money will be a lot over the long haul. I love my kubota but if you get out of the sub compact you open yourself up to a bigger variety of makes and models. I would consider the real need for a BH. To be honest I have had very little problem pushing over trees and popping them out with a fel and tooth bar. Personal I think a root grapple will do you a better service on a bigger tractor in your situation. Lots to think about. 25 grand buys a lot of alternatives. A tach-all snow plow, forks, root grapple, loader, I don't know man. I would think hard on that 1

 

[bill177]

Most enjoyable thread I have read in a long time.

I went through the decision making process last summer and bought a Massey Ferguson GC2300 4wd HST with the FEL and a 48" tiller. What little I would ever have to do with a BH can be taken care of with a rental from a few miles down the road.

Within reason, I have found little I cannot do with my baby tractor. Depending on variety, I can push over trees or dig them up with the FEL. Not 24" oak or maple - but small pines, berry, cedars, etc. Great for brush and shumac too. Next I will get a tooth bar from Markham.

I purchased the Massey due to dealer problems. I looked at green and orange - then found a dealer that actually wanted my business (something rare these days). He sold red - so red it is and I am very happy. I have about $13,000 in the whole package.

If I had to do it over again, I wouldn't stop by green or orange - just proceed directly to red. I really do think they are more bang for the dollar.

 

[Volfandt]

If I had to do it over again, I wouldn't stop by green or orange - just proceed directly to red. I really do think they are more bang for the dollar.

One of the local Kubota dealers also carries MF's and I had the oppurtunity to compare the BX23 and GC2310 side by side (literally) and I'm afraid I'm gonna have to disagree with you
The GC's operators station was smaller and more cramped and the seating wasn't as comfortable as the BX.
When I popped the hood open on the GC, there was surface rust all over several engine components and on the tractor, especially the flywheel. The BX didn't have any surface rust.
The GC may have been sitting out in the weather longer which probably contributed to the rust and the reason it was probably sitting out in the weather longer was because the dealer said he sold 20 BX's to every 1 GC
With all that the GC2310 priced out a hair higher than the BX23 too....

IMHO the BX was the stouter machine which convinced me to go orange. In my case I got a better "bang" out of my $$$'s with the BX23

Volfandt

 

[LBrown59]

Most enjoyable thread I have read in a long time.

1*What little I would ever have to do with a BH can be taken care of with a rental from a few miles down the road.
2*I can push over trees or dig them up with the FEL.
3*I have about $13,000 in the whole package.
4*Just proceed directly to red. I really do think they are more bang for the buck.
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I went through the decision making process last summer and bought a Massey Ferguson GC2300 4wd HST with the FEL and a 48" tiller. What little I would ever have to do with a BH can be taken care of with a rental from a few miles down the road.

Within reason, I have found little I cannot do with my baby tractor. Depending on variety, I can push over trees or dig them up with the FEL. Not 24" oak or maple - but small pines, berry, cedars, etc. Great for brush and shumac too. Next I will get a tooth bar from Markham.

I purchased the Massey due to dealer problems. I looked at green and orange - then found a dealer that actually wanted my business (something rare these days). He sold red - so red it is and I am very happy. I have about $13,000 in the whole package.

If I had to do it over again, I wouldn't stop by green or orange - just proceed directly to red. I really do think they are more bang for the dollar.

1* That's not true for me: I'd be lost without the BH, I have so many little jobs come up so frequently that if I had to rent one none of them would ever get done.
For me it's not practical to frequently rent a BH for 15 to 30 minute jobs.
Also when I need the BH I need it now so I don't have time to wait on a rental.
2* I cleared .6 acres of heave dense 2 to 8'' trees and brush last winter. The BH made it much quicker/easier than using just the FEL and put much less strain on the tractor.
3*My BX23 with a 60'' MMM was 15500 Including The Back Hoe. A BH For $2500 more =talk about BANG for the Buck.
4*That depends on how much buck for what?
Could You have gotten The MF 2310 with the BH For $2500 more than you paid for the 2300?



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[bill177]

4*That depends on how much buck for what?
Could You have gotten The MF 2310 with the BH For $2500 more than you paid for the 2300?

I didn't consider a BH. To me, the BH was just something that I do not need and would have to store most of the time. In 16 years at the same place, I have yet to need a BH - even for a 15 minute job.

My comments about the GC2300 purchase is based upon my experience and use. But, the whole topic of tractor purchasing is personal - suiting individual needs and personalities. Not much different that buying a car, boat, airplane, etc. Price may or may not entire into the decision. In my case the savings amounted to $2000 as compared to green or orange (of course this will vary from dealer to dealer and area to area).

 

[dillo99]

Well I also looked at the "B" series. The one that caught my eye is the B7510HSD, but this thing with a loader will be about the same price as the BX24 and no back-hoe.

I'm not even sure if the 7510 can take a hoe and it only has 21 horses. I know that a couple of horses on a diesel don't mean much. I can save a couple of grand on the geared tranny and put that towards a possible back-hoe and I don't mind gears from what I read they are stronger overall. Anybody have any input on the kubota hydros? Would the hydro on the 7510 really be worth the 2500$ extra they ask for? If the hydro is as strong and will hold up as long as the geared version I'd probably consider it, but don't mind spending the extra cash on the hydro. I can see the "Go Bigger" reasons, heck I'd get a 580Case if I could swing it, but then again, once all the hard work is done I don't want to have a 25,000$ lawnmower...if a lawnmower can actually be attached to some of these bigger machines

Man these are hard decisions.

Taiser:

Sounds like you already made up your mind but I am going to weigh in here...first of all, I don't understand the price difference you are seeing on the 7510 vs. the bx24. My B7500 with the larger loader and a backhoe was 18.1k I did not get a finish mower - that would add 2k. At the time I was looking at bx22 and the dealer talked me into the 7500 - great machine.

My neighbor has bx24 and it is a very nice machine, but I can do things he can't and I appear to have more power than him for pulling and lifting despite having 3 less horsepower. The B series engines have larger displacement plus you have to consider that larger wheels play into the overall power of the machine. Also, my neighbor and I have done backhoe work together and my backhoe is definitely more powerful and heavy duty. Now I am not knocking the BX24 at all - nice machine.

Someone pointed out that every recommends to go bigger on this forum...I think the point is to get the most tractor you can afford - you will have it a long time.

As far as the hydro goes, I love it. It is especially nice if you are doing loader work but I also find it is great when traversing uneven ground. When the ground is smooth I go fast...as I approach uneven areas I can just slow down. I have 27 acres with many wooded trails that are a bit bumpy.

Also, I know you say you are against financing, but Kubota will give you 36 months interest free - a nice deal!

 

[LBrown59]

Well I also looked at the "B" series. The one that caught my eye is the B7510HSD, but this thing with a loader will be about the same price as the BX24 and no back-hoe.

I'm not even sure if the 7510 can take a hoe and it only has 21 horses. I know that a couple of horses on a diesel don't mean much. I can save a couple of grand on the geared tranny and put that towards a possible back-hoe and I don't mind gears from what I read they are stronger overall. Anybody have any input on the kubota hydros? Would the hydro on the 7510 really be worth the 2500$ extra they ask for? If the hydro is as strong and will hold up as long as the geared version I'd probably consider it, but don't mind spending the extra cash on the hydro. I can see the "Go Bigger" reasons, heck I'd get a 580Case if I could swing it, but then again, once all the hard work is done I don't want to have a 25,000$ lawnmower...if a lawnmower can actually be attached to some of these bigger machines

Man these are hard decisions.

Only because you don't have the experience and haven't owned the equipment.
The 750 hours I put on my BX23 makes it easy for me.
I was just as bewildered and confused as you before I got the BX23