Buying Advice Mahindra 4035 HST vs. Kubota L4240 HST

[coobie]

Better ballast hanging off the back of the tractor helps with that. Weighing down the rear tires only helps prevent picking them up, it does nothing to transfer weight off the front axle. Weight hanging on the 3 point will use the rear axle as a pivot point, transferring weight from the front axle to the rear. One of the most common failures of CUTs and SCUTs with loaders is overloading the front axle and breaking things or wearing them out prematurely. When doing heavy loader work, I'd prefer enough weight on the back that the front feels light with the loader empty. When it is loaded it should balance back out and drive more normally. Buckling the sidewalls on the tires is an indication steering and other components are under tremendous pressure, ballast on the 3 point is the best solution.

Rear tires are loaded with rimguard and I use a 1,000 LBS rear ballast box.coobie

 

[Sysop]

If I was doing heavy loader use, to the capacity of my loader, I'd have more than that for ballast. Rimguard does nothing to reduce the weight on the front axle, all it does is hold the rear axle down and lower the center of gravity to prevent tipping. Seen it said the front axle of the 4035HST is rated at 2.5ton which is way above the competition, I know when I inspected the tractors in my "short list", the sheer overbuilt nature of the Mahindra's front axle was one of the final things that swayed me to purchase Mahindra coupled with the threads I've read of some of the broken front axle problems many 4wd CUTs have. Hasn't been a week since a thread crossed the "new posts" list here on TBN about a front wheel broken off a Kubota, several members in the thread had similar issues, it's scary to read and something to consider.

 

[coobie]

If I was doing heavy loader use, to the capacity of my loader, I'd have more than that for ballast. Rimguard does nothing to reduce the weight on the front axle, all it does is hold the rear axle down and lower the center of gravity to prevent tipping. Seen it said the front axle of the 4035HST is rated at 2.5ton which is way above the competition, I know when I inspected the tractors in my "short list", the sheer overbuilt nature of the Mahindra's front axle was one of the final things that swayed me to purchase Mahindra coupled with the threads I've read of some of the broken front axle problems many 4wd CUTs have. Hasn't been a week since a thread crossed the "new posts" list here on TBN about a front wheel broken off a Kubota, several members in the thread had similar issues, it's scary to read and something to consider.

Have to tell ya not my first tractor rodeo.I was brought up on a Farm and did farming about 1,000 acres.I fully understand the use of rimguard and MY BALLAST BOX.

 

[Sysop]

I just hate seeing broken stuff when it can be avoided. With experience you do learn how much is needed for a given task. I'm just saying that with a loader capacity over 2500# on my tractor, I'd have more than 1000# on the back if using the loader to capacity, especially if the front tires are flexing the sidewalls a lot (I think of that flex as a visible indicator of when to add more ballast to the 3 point since it directly translates into the pressures the axle and steering are under).

 

[murphy1244]

If I was doing heavy loader use, to the capacity of my loader, I'd have more than that for ballast. Rimguard does nothing to reduce the weight on the front axle, all it does is hold the rear axle down and lower the center of gravity to prevent tipping. Seen it said the front axle of the 4035HST is rated at 2.5ton which is way above the competition, I know when I inspected the tractors in my "short list", the sheer overbuilt nature of the Mahindra's front axle was one of the final things that swayed me to purchase Mahindra coupled with the threads I've read of some of the broken front axle problems many 4wd CUTs have. Hasn't been a week since a thread crossed the "new posts" list here on TBN about a front wheel broken off a Kubota, several members in the thread had similar issues, it's scary to read and something to consider.

Where are you getting all this broken front axle crap? I've seen a couple but not 1 a week. Show me.

 

[murphy1244]

If I was doing heavy loader use, to the capacity of my loader, I'd have more than that for ballast. Rimguard does nothing to reduce the weight on the front axle, all it does is hold the rear axle down and lower the center of gravity to prevent tipping. Seen it said the front axle of the 4035HST is rated at 2.5ton which is way above the competition, I know when I inspected the tractors in my "short list", the sheer overbuilt nature of the Mahindra's front axle was one of the final things that swayed me to purchase Mahindra coupled with the threads I've read of some of the broken front axle problems many 4wd CUTs have. Hasn't been a week since a thread crossed the "new posts" list here on TBN about a front wheel broken off a Kubota, several members in the thread had similar issues, it's scary to read and something to consider.

Where are you getting all this broken front axle crap? I've seen a couple but not 1 a week. Show me.

 

[Sysop]

Where are you getting all this broken front axle crap? I've seen a couple but not 1 a week. Show me.

Never said one a week... I said it hasn't been a week since the last time the subject passed through the "new posts" list here on TBN, it was an older thread someone had dug up and posted to, but several people in the thread all had similar issues. I'll hunt it up again, but I wanted to get the correction about the frequency out there quickly. I never said once a week

 

[coobie]

I just hate seeing broken stuff when it can be avoided. With experience you do learn how much is needed for a given task. I'm just saying that with a loader capacity over 2500# on my tractor, I'd have more than 1000# on the back if using the loader to capacity, especially if the front tires are flexing the sidewalls a lot (I think of that flex as a visible indicator of when to add more ballast to the 3 point since it directly translates into the pressures the axle and steering are under).

I have a question for you,How many broken axles have you personally seen?How much hands on farm or REAL tractor experience do you have?Just curious?Are you just repeating from what you read?358 posts since JUNE 2013 h,mm makes one wonder?

 

[Sysop]

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/214500-b2910-front-wheel-snapped-off.html Was the one popped through the other day.

 

[murphy1244]

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/214500-b2910-front-wheel-snapped-off.html Was the one popped through the other day.

2011. got something a tad newer? Show me also where Mahindras front axle does 2.5 spec Ton on the front axle

 

[coobie]

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/214500-b2910-front-wheel-snapped-off.html Was the one popped through the other day.

By gosh the explains it all,a post from 2011 broken axle problem.LOL.

 

[Sysop]

I have a question for you,How many broken axles have you personally seen?How much hands on farm or REAL tractor experience do you have?Just curious?Are you just repeating from what you read?358 posts since JUNE 2013 h,mm makes one wonder?

I've done farm work since I was a child. I've been around and operated tractors since I was a teen. Now I find myself on the other side of the hill so to speak and am mostly an operator. I've never owned one. I've never done maintenance on one. Being an owner with new maintenance responsibilities is the explanation for my new found interest in joining a place to trade info and such as TBN. I've only seen one broken front axle and I don't think it counts because it was nothing like the tractors of today (it was a pieced together 2WD that the front end had more welds than original steel). But I know the manufacturer's warnings about overloading the front axles on 4wd CUTs, and it's not hard to find someone who had some sort of failure related to overloading their front axle on any of the brands.

 

[coobie]

I've done farm work since I was a child. I've been around and operated tractors since I was a teen. Now I find myself on the other side of the hill so to speak and am mostly an operator. I've never owned one. I've never done maintenance on one. Being an owner with new maintenance responsibilities is the explanation for my new found interest in joining a place to trade info and such as TBN. I've only seen one broken front axle and I don't think it counts because it was nothing like the tractors of today (it was a pieced together 2WD that the front end had more welds than original steel). But I know the manufacturer's warnings about overloading the front axles on 4wd CUTs, and it's not hard to find someone who had some sort of failure related to overloading their front axle on any of the brands.

That explains it all,weekend farmer.LOL

 

[Sysop]

2011. got something a tad newer? Show me also where Mahindras front axle does 2.5 spec Ton on the front axle

I was going after the one mentioned.

Here is an article that mentions the 2.5 ton spec for the front axle. 3rd paragraph As I stated "I had seen it said" which is one of the things that led me to look so closely at the front axles when making my decision. When I looked, it appeared to me to be much stouter.

 

[coobie]

I was going after the one mentioned.

Here is an article that mentions the 2.5 ton spec for the front axle. 3rd paragraph As I stated "I had seen it said" which is one of the things that led me to look so closely at the front axles when making my decision. When I looked, it appeared to me to be much stouter.

Popcorn in hand waiting to gain all of your vast knowledge on broken axles and manufactures warnings.Keep that post count up.LOL

 

[Sysop]

Popcorn in hand waiting to gain all of your vast knowledge on broken axles and manufactures warnings.

And here I was waiting on you to go load your FEL to the hilt without proper ballast and weigh the frontend to show us it's within safe operating ranges.

 

[coobie]

And here I was waiting on you to go load your FEL to the hilt without proper ballast and weigh the frontend to show us it's within safe operating ranges.

My dad taught me at a early age not to debate with certain folks.They will try to beat you with dumbness and experience and try to bring you down to there level.Still have my popcorn,I am all ears oh GREAT ONE.I must have touched a nerve weekend farmer.Sorry

 

[murphy1244]

I was going after the one mentioned.

Here is an article that mentions the 2.5 ton spec for the front axle. 3rd paragraph As I stated "I had seen it said" which is one of the things that led me to look so closely at the front axles when making my decision. When I looked, it appeared to me to be much stouter.

And where are the comparisons?

 

[Sysop]

My dad taught me at a early age not to debate with certain folks.They will try to beat you with dumbness and experience and try to bring you down to there level.Still have my popcorn,I am all ears oh GREAT ONE.I must have touched a nerve weekend farmer.Sorry

You're 100% right..

I just tried to make a point that if the sidewalls are collapsing from the weight, more ballast on the three point would rectify it and it would be easier on the front axle.

You chose to start a debate about it, then chose to end said debate by calling me "weekend farmer" and "great one" and other such things you apparently are intending to have derogatory meaning.

Then you're going to try and flip it around? troll...

 

[coobie]

And where are the comparisons?

Still waiting myself Murph.