Need manual, gave serial# and no love

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Was suggested I email into AGCO with the serial number to get a manual for our MF40 and they said they couldn’t find a record of it!!! Huh!?! lol. Any help to find what manual is need would help immensely from the group!
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   / Need manual, gave serial# and no love #2  
I can put you onto a manual for a 35 but I do not know how similar it might be to your 40.

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   / Need manual, gave serial# and no love #3  
Without a picture of the whole tractor, I'm assuming what you have is a Ferguson F-40. Depending on what manuals you need there are quite a few on ebay: Ferguson F-40 Manual for sale | eBay Looks like a heck of a deal on a good used OEM reprint service manual for $26 & change. I have purchased from this guy and he has quality stuff reasonably priced. He may even have other manuals for that tractor just not listed. You can always message him through ebay and check.

The F-40 is the same as a Massey-Harris 50. I did look on the AGCO site, and neither came up in a search for an online parts manual. So, looks like a hardcopy is all that is available.
 
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You might have a nose-about here, and in the M-F section as well, to see if anything might be close.
 
   / Need manual, gave serial# and no love
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Without a picture of the whole tractor, I'm assuming what you have is a Ferguson F-40. Depending on what manuals you need there are quite a few on ebay: Ferguson F-40 Manual for sale | eBay Looks like a heck of a deal on a good used OEM reprint service manual for $26 & change. I have purchased from this guy and he has quality stuff reasonably priced. He may even have other manuals for that tractor just not listed. You can always message him through ebay and check.

The F-40 is the same as a Massey-Harris 50. I did look on the AGCO site, and neither came up in a search for an online parts manual. So, looks like a hardcopy is all that is available.
Appreciate the reply! I’ll get a few pics!!
 
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Without a picture of the whole tractor, I'm assuming what you have is a Ferguson F-40. Depending on what manuals you need there are quite a few on ebay: Ferguson F-40 Manual for sale | eBay Looks like a heck of a deal on a good used OEM reprint service manual for $26 & change. I have purchased from this guy and he has quality stuff reasonably priced. He may even have other manuals for that tractor just not listed. You can always message him through ebay and check.

The F-40 is the same as a Massey-Harris 50. I did look on the AGCO site, and neither came up in a search for an online parts manual. So, looks like a hardcopy is all that is available.
DJ, appreciate the reply! I headed over to the nieghbors where he was beefing up the bucket and got these pics.

I'm hoping that SOME place would have a list of all the serial numbers and a cross reference to find the REAL model and get a manual.
Mostly right now, looking to get the plastic 'bushing' that fits down inside the steering column Not sure if it's a 'cross-over' piece that other models would have in this era model If it's an F-40 as we were told it was.... I'll be jumping on the ebay train!
Again, thank you!.
 

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   / Need manual, gave serial# and no love #9  
After seeing the pictures, it's definitely NOT a F40, and why it is important to post a few pics. No harm, no foul.

AGCO does have online parts manual(s) for a 40, and a model 40B. Looks like the 40B was the later version and most commonly used with a backhoe.

This is for the 40: https://parts.agcocorp.com/us/en/apbsearch?q=masseyferguson/651282/l&c=00-00&name=MF 40 TRACTOR

This is for the 40B:https://parts.agcocorp.com/us/en/apbsearch?q=masseyferguson/651383/l&name=MF 40B TRACTOR

For what it's worth, here is a link to TractorData on the 40: TractorData.com Massey Ferguson 40 industrial tractor information. Bad thing is, it does not show the year by serial number.

This link is for the 40B and if you scroll down towards the bottom, it does list model year by serial number. TractorData.com Massey Ferguson 40 industrial tractor information

So the key now is with the 40B TractorData showing the SN's. If not in that group, you have a Model 40. The important thing is now with the SN you know what manual to get as far as operator, or service. The parts manual can be accessed online at least for now. Case/IH revamped their online parts catalogs and show, but removed part numbers for things they do not stock anymore. But was very handy when you needed a certain part such as an axle housing, etc. you could copy and paste the number and search salvage yards that way. I now have hard copy parts manuals for most of my older tractors to do that.

Now that you can determine exactly what you have by serial number, you can find a part you may need by using that online manual. Use the part number listed so you can find the exact part you need. I did another quick look and on the 40 there were different power steering pumps used on them through the production of them. And listed is the serial number break where they were changed, and states "up to xxxxx"

And you can also find the manuals you need, either by the 40 or 40B. Personally Google gets the best results when I'm looking for a manual. Most will be sites that make reprints. But my go to place is Ebay. There you will find mostly reprints, but occasionally you'll find OEM manuals, and conditions will vary on them. Most generally there they will have some smudges from being used, or tattered corners of pages. What I get are plenty good enough for me, and I'll probably add a few more smudges along the way when working on something.

Hopefully this will get you back on the correct path to find what you're looking for. And please remember when posting about something include pictures if possible. Photos can speak volumes in themselves. I knew as soon as I saw the dash and front end, it was from a 60's era tractor.
 
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After seeing the pictures, it's definitely NOT a F40, and why it is important to post a few pics. No harm, no foul.

AGCO does have online parts manual(s) for a 40, and a model 40B. Looks like the 40B was the later version and most commonly used with a backhoe.

This is for the 40: https://parts.agcocorp.com/us/en/apbsearch?q=masseyferguson/651282/l&c=00-00&name=MF 40 TRACTOR

This is for the 40B:https://parts.agcocorp.com/us/en/apbsearch?q=masseyferguson/651383/l&name=MF 40B TRACTOR

For what it's worth, here is a link to TractorData on the 40: TractorData.com Massey Ferguson 40 industrial tractor information. Bad thing is, it does not show the year by serial number.

This link is for the 40B and if you scroll down towards the bottom, it does list model year by serial number. TractorData.com Massey Ferguson 40 industrial tractor information

So the key now is with the 40B TractorData showing the SN's. If not in that group, you have a Model 40. The important thing is now with the SN you know what manual to get as far as operator, or service. The parts manual can be accessed online at least for now. Case/IH revamped their online parts catalogs and show, but removed part numbers for things they do not stock anymore. But was very handy when you needed a certain part such as an axle housing, etc. you could copy and paste the number and search salvage yards that way. I now have hard copy parts manuals for most of my older tractors to do that.

Now that you can determine exactly what you have by serial number, you can find a part you may need by using that online manual. Use the part number listed so you can find the exact part you need. I did another quick look and on the 40 there were different power steering pumps used on them through the production of them. And listed is the serial number break where they were changed, and states "up to xxxxx"

And you can also find the manuals you need, either by the 40 or 40B. Personally Google gets the best results when I'm looking for a manual. Most will be sites that make reprints. But my go to place is Ebay. There you will find mostly reprints, but occasionally you'll find OEM manuals, and conditions will vary on them. Most generally there they will have some smudges from being used, or tattered corners of pages. What I get are plenty good enough for me, and I'll probably add a few more smudges along the way when working on something.

Hopefully this will get you back on the correct path to find what you're looking for. And please remember when posting about something include pictures if possible. Photos can speak volumes in themselves. I knew as soon as I saw the dash and front end, it was from a 60's era tractor.
Amazing!! Thanks so much! The original post did have the plate with the serial # in it, So we'll start there again :) The seller told us it was a MF40... all this extra info will be great
The hunt begins again with your help! Thanks DJ !!
 
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Amazing!! Thanks so much! The original post did have the plate with the serial # in it, So we'll start there again :) The seller told us it was a MF40... all this extra info will be great
The hunt begins again with your help! Thanks DJ !!
No problem, that's what we're here for.

I'm not even sure if Massey Ferguson even has a new construction/industrial line of equipment anymore, so best to use the OEM part number from those online parts books. You can call your local MF dealer and give them that part number and see if they can get it. Otherwise, Google is a great place to enter a part number and see what results you get. Maintenance items such as filters will probably cross through NAPA's online parts store.

Anymore, Ag. parts counter people can't even find common farm equipment parts on their computer setting in front of them. More than likely a certain model is in the parts system, they just can't seem to find it. Give them the OEM part number to enter, and it will usually pop up, and may even open the link to a complete parts book for the entire machine. Definitely keep the serial number and give that to them too as there may have been different parts used at certain serial number breaks.
 
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Does your old plastic bushing look like one of these?
 

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