New Guy with a BX24 question.

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BXinNH

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Hi everyone. I've been browsing here silently for a while and now I have a question. I am awaiting delivery of my new BX24 TLB :D:D: I am looking for a trailer to move it on. My questions are: What is the total gross weight with FEL and backhoe on? What is the overall length with FEL and backhoe on? Any assistance from current BX owners out there would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Matt.
 
   / New Guy with a BX24 question. #2  
As a TLB, weight is about 2250#. With the MMM you're up to 2500#. I wouldn't tow it on any shorter than a 14'. 16'[ or 18' would be better. Dual axle 7000# GVW is what you want. I've seen guys tweak by with a 6x12 single axle, but I wouldn't. Go a little bigger, so you have some wiggle room if you want to bring along some implements, they're heavy too.

Oh yeah, Trailer brakes on both axles.

Just hit 50 hours on mine and lovin it. Even my wife is happy with the purchase.
 
   / New Guy with a BX24 question. #3  
As a TLB, weight is about 2250#. With the MMM you're up to 2500#. I wouldn't tow it on any shorter than a 14'. 16'[ or 18' would be better. Dual axle 7000# GVW is what you want. I've seen guys tweak by with a 6x12 single axle, but I wouldn't. Go a little bigger, so you have some wiggle room if you want to bring along some implements, they're heavy too.

Oh yeah, Trailer brakes on both axles.

Just hit 50 hours on mine and lovin it. Even my wife is happy with the purchase.

What asylum said...

I tow my bx-23 on a 5000lb 5x14ft tandem axle trailer with hydraulic brakes. I wouldn't want anything less. 7000 lb with 16ft and brakes would be ideal in my opinion. Congrats on the new tractor and make sure you post some pics when you get it.

-Scot
 
   / New Guy with a BX24 question. #4  
I recently picked up a used (37Hrs) BX24 myself. I live in NY/NJ area and bought it from someone in VA. I have a single axle 6x12 but was affraid to use it for the approx 700 mile RT so I rented a uhaul 6x12 tandem axle. I had to keep the FEL on top of the front of the trailer box or enclosure and the backhoe turned to the side but it worked just fine to get it home. I'm picking up a used 18ft dbl axle equipment trailer tomorrow. This one's a bit overkill but I also have 3 quads I can finally tow together instead of one in the truck bed and 2 on the trailer. If you don't want to buy new keep an eye in Craigslist and you'll find a good trailer come up soon enough.
 
   / New Guy with a BX24 question. #5  
Bare minimum: 7,000# dual axle 7' x 16' transport/utility (non-landscaping) trailer. I've found that lots of landscaping trailers only have brakes on 1 axle.

I have a 10,000# 20' trailer which is a LITTLE overkill (not as much as you would think) but it has been a great addition to the armada. The 10K trailer weighs about 200# more than the 7k trailer, but I get that much more comfort in towing with that extra rating. Tows straight as an arrow and gives me some room to carry my stuff without piling it up on top of itself while loading.

Having had a 3,500# single axle trailer, I can say that it is inadequate to tow these machines on, even if within the weight limit of the trailer. The COG is all wrong. No bueno.

I have a place here local that sells 7k 16' trailers all day long for under $2k. I got my 10k 20' trailer for $2,500, but that was a particularly good deal. You could get them down to $2,800 on a good sale.
 
   / New Guy with a BX24 question. #6  
Most BXs without a bh weigh about the same (except 1500). Most BX TLBs weigh about the same. Search in this thread with "BX" and either "trailer" or "towing" with no time period restrictions. You will find many threads and hundreds upon hundreds of posts of this topic.
 
   / New Guy with a BX24 question. #7  
I've been hauling my BX23 on a 6*10 single axle trailer for quite some time. the trailer is rated for 3250 lbs and the bx weighs about 2500 lbs. I have never had a moment where I thought this trailer was inadequate. I drive the tractor on straight ahead and raise the bucket so the front wheels hit the front of the trailer and I tie it down from there. I was worried that the front bucket was going to "leak down" and lower while driving but i never has. I've hauled it from western Arizona to southern Colorado over rough roads and freeway speeds and its done fine. Of course a dually trailer with hydraulic brakes would be better, but I have no need for such a thing and my single axle trailer works great for me. I upgraded the tires to a 6 ply tire that are rated at 1625 lbs each.
 
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I'm using an "Eandi" trailer my Uncle bought new in 1960's... it has been coast to coast many times in the 60's and early 70's towing Lotus Super 7's, mustangs and even a GT40 (not coast to coast, though)

The trailer has 2 ea 10' long rails, single axle without springs with 10 ply heavy duty tires with tubes and I tow it with a Ford Diesel Excursion...

I believe the tires are rated 2020# each and the trailer has a 4000# tag...

My BX 23 TLB fits like a glove with the loader secured to the A frame tongue...

A heavier trailer requires a heavier tow vehicle... no one can fault you for going with a 16' double axle with brakes... all depends on what your needs are.

Just as important as the trailer is make sure you have a proper hitch and that the tractor is chained securely to the trailer.
 
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You mean one of these?
 

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   / New Guy with a BX24 question. #10  
a 16ft dual axle with electric brakes on both axles is a good for the BX24 which is what i have. :)
 
   / New Guy with a BX24 question. #11  
BXinNH, do a search. You will find the same guys saying the same things.

I think it boils down to what your towing experience is, which might color what your decision is. Myself, I am an avid boater, and have towed 20 foot boats on a single axle trailer all over the place. So for me, a single axle trailer is not out of the question.

Others, who might come from a heavy equipment background, sould only consider a tandem 16' trailer as the bare minimum...

What's your past towing experience?
 
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Thank you all for all your helpful information. I have quite a bit of experience towing boats etc with my truck. I probably should have mentioned that I'm towing with a F350 Super Duty. I would like to avoid the hassle and expense of trailer brakes if possible as the F350 has MORE than adequate braking for a 3-4000lb trailer. I have seen a lot of 12-14ft single axle trailers but I'm not sure about the length with the backhoe on. I have also seen a lot of 16-18ft tandem axle 7000-10000lb rated trailers with brakes but this seems like a lot of overkill for a 2000lb tractor. Also, I likely won't be hauling it very far. Any more input would certainly be appreciated. Does anyone know how long the tractor is with the FEL and BH buckets both on the ground? Thanks.

Matt.
 
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I've been hauling my BX23 on a 6*10 single axle trailer for quite some time. the trailer is rated for 3250 lbs and the bx weighs about 2500 lbs. I have never had a moment where I thought this trailer was inadequate.

Gerford,
Is that 3250lbs rating total weight? What about the trailer itself? A single axle 6x10 has to weigh in around 750-1000 lbs. If so, you're right at the limit if not over a bit. Problem is this. You're not legal on the road. Having an overloaded trailer can be as dangerous as having an underpowered tow vehicle. If that 6x10 has no brakes, you could get yourself in a heap of trouble with a small tow vehicle. I'm talking you need a HD truck. I certainly don't want to sound like the road police, but actually I am in real life. Everything is fine, until something goes wrong. I've seen plenty of bad accidents and most of them occurred because of bad decisions.
Better to be careful than lucky.
 
   / New Guy with a BX24 question. #14  
Hi everyone. I've been browsing here silently for a while and now I have a question. I am awaiting delivery of my new BX24 TLB :D:D: I am looking for a trailer to move it on. My questions are: What is the total gross weight with FEL and backhoe on? What is the overall length with FEL and backhoe on? Any assistance from current BX owners out there would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Matt.
2467 pounds with 60'' mmm.
15 feet.
 
   / New Guy with a BX24 question. #15  
My BX23 was delivered on 6x12 single axle (sans the MMM) and I've hauled it on my personal 6x12 single axle (w/FEL, BH & FEL mounted) on several occasions without incident. I pulled it w/an F150. It's the bare minimum but has worked for me non-the-less.....
YUMV.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/105940-what-do-you-trailer-bx24.html

As been stated, theres good advice in the thread, some over kill, some under kill and some smack dab in the middle. Just pick your poison :D
 
   / New Guy with a BX24 question. #17  
Thank you all for all your helpful information. I have quite a bit of experience towing boats etc with my truck. I probably should have mentioned that I'm towing with a F350 Super Duty. I would like to avoid the hassle and expense of trailer brakes if possible as the F350 has MORE than adequate braking for a 3-4000lb trailer. I have seen a lot of 12-14ft single axle trailers but I'm not sure about the length with the backhoe on. I have also seen a lot of 16-18ft tandem axle 7000-10000lb rated trailers with brakes but this seems like a lot of overkill for a 2000lb tractor. Also, I likely won't be hauling it very far. Any more input would certainly be appreciated. Does anyone know how long the tractor is with the FEL and BH buckets both on the ground? Thanks.

Matt.

Matt, I have had my BX22 for around four years now. I have 900 hours on it and have hauled it on a 5x10 single axle 3500Lb rated trailer, a 18' tandem 10K rated trailer and a couple of sizes in between. I have many years of towing experience. Some of what you have received is sound, some is questionable.
1) Never,... never tow with the bucket up. I have had the misfortune of being first on scene after a chevy blazer pulling a tractor loaded in such a manner stopped rapidly after running into a ditch. The tractor broke free of the bindings and made the trip into the back of the blazer which was occupied by several laborers. Front bucket should be down and if possible up against some sort of solid blocking device such as the front cargo bar of the trailer.
2) Absolute minimum length for a BX22 trailer is 14ft and that does not allow you any extra length to shift the COG. I have found that 3000Lb - 3600Lb 16' tandem utility trailer without ducktail works very well. I don't bother with ramps as you can loft the front up with the loader and then pi ck the backend up with the hoe and push the whole tractor up onto the trailer (actually if you leve the two vehicle in neutral you end up pulling the trailer under the tractor).
The beauty of working with small equipment is that you don't have to have the big iron to haul it around. I sold my 3/4 ton truck several months ago and now haul mine around with a 3 liter for ranger with no problems.
3) Unless your truck out weighs the trailer and tractor significantly then brakes are a sound investment. I prefer hydraulic surge to electric. But each has advantages.
4) Good ties downs. I pull a logging chain and binder across the main hoe hinge, a pair of binders around each side of the front axle. I also run a chain and binder across the fron of te bucket to stop the tractor should we have an emergency stop or accident that breaks on of the other three tie downs. I have about $300 in chains and Tie downs.

Having said all that. I'd recommend two trailers. If y9ou are into cars then themachine fits on a 17 or 18 foot car hauler with room to spare.

If you are handy and find yourself at Lowes or Home Depot frequently then the 16' Tandem untility would find more use in your stable.

How much you can haul with a small pickup is really a function of trailer brakes and operator experience. I am currently gathering the material to put togeather a 18ft tandem wheel over gooseneck specifically for the bX22 and my Ranger. It wil only be 5'8" wide and will be a bit higher than the utility as the whells go under the bed instead of outside the bed. You won't find one of these on the lot, but I want to be able to load and unload palletized material and the wheel over is the only design that allows me to do that from the sides. Hope some of this helps you a bit.

BX22, 60" mower, 48" pulverizer, Auger, Disk harrow, landscape rake, 600lb broadcast spreader, 4' box blade, loader forks, modified bucket for log handling.
 
   / New Guy with a BX24 question. #18  
Hi everyone. I've been browsing here silently for a while and now I have a question. I am awaiting delivery of my new BX24 TLB :D:D: I am looking for a trailer to move it on. My questions are: What is the total gross weight with FEL and backhoe on? What is the overall length with FEL and backhoe on? Any assistance from current BX owners out there would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Matt.
The big thing is do you have enough truck tio handle a trailer and the tractor with.
 
   / New Guy with a BX24 question. #19  
How much you can haul with a small pickup is really a function of trailer brakes and operator experience. I am currently gathering the material to put togeather a 18ft tandem wheel over gooseneck specifically for the bX22 and my Ranger. It wil only be 5'8" wide and will be a bit higher than the utility as the whells go under the bed instead of outside the bed. You won't find one of these on the lot, but I want to be able to load and unload palletized material and the wheel over is the only design that allows me to do that from the sides. Hope some of this helps you a bit.
Do you think my
Nisson or toyota pick ups would handle trailering a bx23?
What about the BX1500?
 

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