original hydraulic filters wont come off.

[ironman1952]

Well after a a 10.0 on the Richter scale it finally came off. LOL I broke 5 filter wrenches in the process
1 with the fabric type band that you guys showed, snapped in a heart beat filter never moved
2 of the metal ones that bind against the filter, I guess i don't know my own strength, not bad a 73
2 of 3 prong types that you use a 1/2" long bar bracket. Those were the best but due to their Chinese origin the gears stripped due to my superman like grip.

Finally I drilled a 3/8 hole in the far end and with a long beefy screw driver and the simultaneous cranking with one of those O'Rielly filter metal band wrenches, It slowly came off.

Of course with almost no maneuvering room under neath I had to get my knee against the band and at the same time torque the screw driver
I have never seen the likes of this.
I think it was a combination of Paint 1/16 thick, over tightening, dry gasket and time on the machine before removal.
If Kioti wants to install these like this they should engineer and manufacture a special filter remover taking into consideration the room under the tractor to move any tool.

Phew that was a long story.

 

[Eagle1]

Well after a a 10.0 on the Richter scale it finally came off. LOL I broke 5 filter wrenches in the process
1 with the fabric type band that you guys showed, snapped in a heart beat filter never moved
2 of the metal ones that bind against the filter, I guess i don't know my own strength, not bad a 73
2 of 3 prong types that you use a 1/2" long bar bracket. Those were the best but due to their Chinese origin the gears stripped due to my superman like grip.

Finally I drilled a 3/8 hole in the far end and with a long beefy screw driver and the simultaneous cranking with one of those O'Rielly filter metal band wrenches, It slowly came off.

Of course with almost no maneuvering room under neath I had to get my knee against the band and at the same time torque the screw driver
I have never seen the likes of this.
I think it was a combination of Paint 1/16 thick, over tightening, dry gasket and time on the machine before removal.
If Kioti wants to install these like this they should engineer and manufacture a special filter remover taking into consideration the room under the tractor to move any tool.

Phew that was a long story.

Caveman techniques to the rescue Welcome to the club

 

[David in KY]

Yep, this is a long standing issue on Kioti's.
I cheated and had the dealer perform the first service for me.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Another Caveman......
Is it wrong if it works?

I saw a guy do this on his motorcycle. Drove the screwdriver right through his nearby oil cooler

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

I was surprised to find that my Branson filters were not painted on.

 

[BleedingOrange]

Nice that you finally got the filter off. Might be a good idea for anyone purchasing a new tractor to get the dealership to crack all the original filters loose and then re-tighten them to correct spec before delivering the new tractor.

 

[RandyT]

I use this when I get the real stubborn filters. Same strap wrench we use to wrap around the flywheel when torquing the flywheel nut at 150 lb/ft

Briggs & Stratton 19433 Flywheel Wrench

Genuine Briggs and Stratton tools are designed to last and perform the task in any environment. Many parts look similar, so it’s crucial to ensure you’re choosing the right replacement for your original equipment or engine model. Not sure? Use our Parts Lookup Tool to view part diagrams and find...

shop.briggsandstratton.com

 

[ironman1952]

I actually drilled and then used a screw driver of substance Not my first choice of how to do things but desperation calls for desperate measures
If it had not come off at that i might have brought out the torch and cut the whole tractor in half LOL
Now comes the search for hydraulic oil, I should have paid better attention in biology/ FFA

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

I just bought 15 gallons of Triax Agra UTTO

Seems to be well liked. Got a great Cyber Monday deal

 

[WinterDeere]

Another Caveman......
Is it wrong if it works?

Some of my vehicles, the Durango R/T in the current fleet, make engine oil filter swaps a mess if you don't penetrate and drain the can first. I use a sharp awl instead of Sawyer Rob's screwdriver, it punches thru with much less effort, but same concept. I've driven them all the way thru the side wall to spin a difficult filter off, when needed.

And yeah... I know the red Dixie cup (or quart yogurt container) trick. But sometimes a hole in the bottom still proves least messy.

 

[LHF2019]

Never really thought about that. Makes sense, as it's pretty universal for end users to lube the gasket when installing a new filter.
Pretty sure they wouldn't at the factory.

It would be interesting to know how each manufacture does install their filters. At the Cummins plant where they build the X & M series of engines they do in fact have a container with an oil soaked sponge that you use to lube up the filter gasket then it is tightened with a torque wrench. It would be interesting how hard those are to change the fist time. I had to change them and they come off easy but the engines were just built last couple hours, were warm from running and had not been painted yet.

 

[hayden]

A large pair of channel-lock pliers has always been my go-to tool for filter removal. Only on rare occasions does access space force me to use something else.

 

[ranger13256]

I had the same problem. Final solution was a strap wrench with sandpaper wrapped around the filter to prevent slippage. Worked like a charm!

 

[Yaaker]

This is really weird. I purchased a new Kioti RX7320 74hp. I am doing the 50hr service. I have bent 2 of the standard type filter removal tools and they have not even budged yet.
I have 1 more type coming tomorrow a 3 point type that uses a 1/2 ratchet. I am wondering would it help if i went around where it connects with a razor knife? There are 2 filters and they are about 3/8" apart so not much room.
I am not a career mechanic but I have turned a few wrenches in my day and have never seen a filter on this tight.

Help

Had the same problem on a new rx6620. Used paint stripper all around filter base and problem solved

 

[IndyJay]

Might be an option. Have and like them.

2pc Oil Filter/ PVC Pliers Set (OF-2)

The CHANNELLOCK® OF-2 2-Piece Oil Filter/PVC Pliers Set combines the strength and reliability of our iconic Tongue and Groove Pliers with the special needs of PVC and oil filters. The 212 has a jaw capacity of 2-1/2 to 3-3/4 In. The 209 has a jaw capacity of 1-3/4 to 3 In. These pliers remove...

shop.channellock.com

These worked for me with my DK4510. Other methods did not work. Between paint and dry gasket surface, they are a bear to remove first time.

 

[SGreene]

I have the same tractor and had the same problem. The filter installing gorilla loves his job. After pre-cutting the gaskets, crushing and tearing the filters using every wrench and strap available, I ended up cutting them off. Funny, this conversation is a main thread topic on other Kioti forums as well.

 

[heyinway]

This is really weird. I purchased a new Kioti RX7320 74hp. I am doing the 50hr service. I have bent 2 of the standard type filter removal tools and they have not even budged yet.
I have 1 more type coming tomorrow a 3 point type that uses a 1/2 ratchet. I am wondering would it help if i went around where it connects with a razor knife? There are 2 filters and they are about 3/8" apart so not much room.
I am not a career mechanic but I have turned a few wrenches in my day and have never seen a filter on this tight.

Help

Measure the outer diameter of the filter. Look on Fleetpride.com They sell a variety of heavy duty filter band wrenches that are commercial grade. The stuff you find at auto parts stores are consumer grade. Once you get the proper size one, wrap coarse sandpaper around the filter for extra grip. Position the wrench up tight to the mounting end of the filter...not at the bottom, you don't want to distort the filter and still not get it broke loose. Had a Mack that had impossible to remove oil filters...used one of these with 1/2 breaker bar and cheater pipe to break loose.

 

[DarkBlack]

I saw a guy do this on his motorcycle. Drove the screwdriver right through his nearby oil cooler

You also want to be centered and close to the filter base, but not so close that you risk pounding your screwdriver into the exposed threads of your engine’s threaded nipple.

 

[SGreene]

You also want to be centered and close to the filter base, but not so close that you risk pounding your screwdriver into the exposed threads of your engine’s threaded nipple.

To make the screw driver trick work, you need to drive the screw driver through both sides of the filter. On the Kioti RX, there is an extension from the motor's filter housing that runs nearly the bottom of the filter, which wont allow a guy to puncture through the center of the filter. It's about an inch in diameter.

 

[dodge man]

I have used the big channel lock trick before, it usually works. On late model Chrysler Hemi engines the filter is easy to get at but just the end with the socket style. On a 300c we had I was just crushing the end of the filter. I could just barely get on the base of the filter through the passenger wheel well. I was just getting tiny little turns that way and that thing had to be spun over half a turn before it would spin off by hand.