snow removal with gear tractor as appose to HST

[Green Acres Homestead]

Had a Kubota L4740 hST. Wicket tractor but it had 4000 hours on it so sold it. Looking at buying a new tractor. Looking at a M4D-071
which is a gear tractor.

1. Anybody have any experience with M4D-071 for snow removal.
2. Any thought about the pros and cons of gear as appose HST.
3.One thing comes to mine if you hit something you let off the peddle on the HST. Gear you have to turn around then depress the clutch or click the forward button either would not be as fast as HST peddle. Any thoughts.
4. Do I need a creeper gear?

 

[zzvyb6]

I use a geared tractor with a front loader mounted truck plow. No issues. Plow ought to have trip springs to avoid solid impacts. I see no need for a creeper gear because snow removal ought to be done at relatively high speed to break the snow mounds free. Otherwise it packs up. Faster you go, the farther the snow will fly off of the plow.

 

[oldnslo]

What type of equipment are you using for snow removal?

If snow blower then having slower speed for deeper snow is a benefit.

If blade and doing longer driveway with very few short pushes or minimal backing up required either would work.

What else will tractor be used for besides snow removal?

 

[ptsg]

Checking the specs and looks like the M4D-071 has hydraulic shuttle with electric over hydraulic control. You don't need to use the clutch to change directions. Just flip the lever back and forward and vice versa.

 

[square1]

Don't overthink it. Have been moving snow for 30+ years with a geared tractor and the snow has always been moved.

 

[screamin400]

Many of them in the snow fleets using pull type blowers. Guys love them

 

[RjCorazza]

The first half of my life I used geared tractors for snow removal, and the second half HST. The job got done with both, but my preference is HST to save clutching and shifting. A good operator will be able to adjust to whatever transmission he / she has, and be on the clutch plenty fast when necessary.
I have no seat time on the variations of geared tractors other than the old standard clutched manuals. I suspect the GST's, reversers, etc are much more convenient and flexible.

 

[LD1]

Definitely not as convenient as a HST. For finesse, speed control, or direction change nothing can compare to a HST. But that dont mean other options are close and also easy to use. So I agree, dont over think it. The M4 would be a nice plowing tractor for sure.

 

[bdhsfz6]

My only issue moving snow using a blower with a geared tractor was finding the right speed. Snow consistency and depth change, and minor speed adjustments need to be made to keep from overloading the blower. Easy with an HST but can be a problem depending on the type of geared tractor transmission.

Not much difference between gear and HST using a plow. Keeping a foot on the clutch is a good idea though in case you hit something.

There are many other considerations to consider if you use the machine for things other than moving snow.

 

[2manyrocks]

I bought a L2501 HST and then added a gear drive MX5200. It felt very strange going from the HST to the gear drive.

Also, the HST makes it so easy to just pick a speed range and then tailor the actual speed instantly to ground conditions.

I don't think the issue will be whether the gear drive will work so much as whether you want a gear drive after having a HST?

 

[Green Acres Homestead]

What type of equipment are you using for snow removal?

If snow blower then having slower speed for deeper snow is a benefit.

If blade and doing longer driveway with very few short pushes or minimal backing up required either would work.

What else will tractor be used for besides snow removal?

logging and 23 acres farm doing like bush hogging and tilling garden

 

[Green Acres Homestead]

Don't overthink it. Have been moving snow for 30+ years with a geared tractor and the snow has always been moved.

It looks like I may have about 12 hours a day so trying to get something efficient.

 

[Farmer495]

Had a Kubota L4740 hST. Wicket tractor but it had 4000 hours on it so sold it. Looking at buying a new tractor. Looking at a M4D-071
which is a gear tractor.

1. Anybody have any experience with M4D-071 for snow removal.
2. Any thought about the pros and cons of gear as appose HST.
3.One thing comes to mine if you hit something you let off the peddle on the HST. Gear you have to turn around then depress the clutch or click the forward button either would not be as fast as HST peddle. Any thoughts.
4. Do I need a creeper gear?

1) Looked at them, M7060 12 speed cab is less money for smaller cab.Either will work perfectly fine for snow removal with loader or blower. Currently run an M7040SU which is same power size. Planning to get a cab model in future. Will do same work.
2) Shuttle will give you same speed back and forth for plowing with loader. High range 1st, clutchless shuttle etc. Drive with foot throttle and shuttle lever.
3) Control speed with foot throttle, you left off pedal and you slow down instantly, clutch/shuttle to N to stop. I keep left foot clutch ready if I am into something I need to stop real quick. No issues stopping fast. HST isn't an option for me in HP class.
4) Not really, might be nice snow blowing, I don't have it and run a 78" blower in 1st reverse easy. Do have to clutch a bit but I do 99% of my snow in multiple driveways and farm yard with blower.

NS/NB dealers do have "territory" so best to buy where your home address is near.