Tazewell Visit Suggestions

[ToolcatWonka5610]

I was thinking of getting a Skid Steer adapter and using a Skid Steer Bucket but it would probably reduce how much we could lift. We want as much Lift capacity as possible.

 

[J_J]

Thats something we should try after we get our 1850.

Not to put a downer on your trip to Tazewell, but

Have you considered the fact that PT might not let you test, ride on, mess with anything there due to liability laws. Your dad might have to do all the testing and so forth.

 

[SnowRidge]

Not to put a downer on your trip to Tazewell, but

Have you considered the fact that PT might not let you test, ride on, mess with anything there due to liability laws. Your dad might have to do all the testing and so forth.

From listening to the sales staff describe what sometimes happens when adults test them, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they wouldn't let a 14 year old near one. When Scott was Sales Manager, he mentioned they had to run like . . . . more than once.

Then again, they sell PT-425 boom mowers with no manuals or warnings whatsoever. That's it. Ask to test a boom mower. See what the response is.

 

[Phils]

When Scott was Sales Manager, he mentioned they had to run like . . . . more than once.

I can easily see that happening....

... from what I've learned just letting people try my 422:

There is NO brake, and when you stomp hard on the left pedal the results are unlike any other equipment I've ever driven. But hitting the left pedal hard (to stop) is the natural reaction for most people. I almost had a large ground-mount solar array destroyed one time (ALMOST... he took both feet off the treadle in the nick of time).

Phil

 

[ToolcatWonka5610]

I've been thinking about that, too.
But I'm pretty sure Chris knows how old I am and he hasn't said anything like that. He calls me "Little Buddy" So I'm sure he does. He's even told me personally "Well get you set on a machine to drive and everything"

If they don't let me drive anything, my Dad will not like that. He's that kind of person

Thank you all for bringing it back up!

 

[MossRoad]

I can easily see that happening....

... from what I've learned just letting people try my 422:

There is NO brake, and when you stomp hard on the left pedal the results are unlike any other equipment I've ever driven. But hitting the left pedal hard (to stop) is the natural reaction for most people. I almost had a large ground-mount solar array destroyed one time (ALMOST... he took both feet off the treadle in the nick of time).

Phil

Once again I have spit my beverage at my computer screen!!!

I'm sure all of us have done that at least once. Man, full throttle forward, full throttle reverse, PT pucker... HEY has anyone warned the kid about that yet? He's gotta know that.

 

[MossRoad]

I've been thinking about that, too.
But I'm pretty sure Chris knows how old I am and he hasn't said anything like that. He calls me "Little Buddy" So I'm sure he does. He's even told me personally "Well get you set on a machine to drive and everything"

If they don't let me drive anything, my Dad will not like that. He's that kind of person

Thank you all for bringing it back up!

Hey!

Don't know if anyone told you about how easy it is to tip these things on their nose. If you have a full load right at the lift capacity of the machine and turn the steering wheel left or right, since the machine bends in the middle, it effectively gets shorter when you turn. That moves the center of gravity forward and you tip down on the bucket as the rear wheel come off the ground. You need to know this.

 

[J_J]

You reckon he knows about the left/ right pedal, and that there is no foot brake.

 

[Marks481]

He's even told me personally "Well get you set on a machine to drive and everything"

That is probably becuase he recognizes that you are a better salesman for the machinery then he is... He know not to lop off his nose to spite his face.

 

[ToolcatWonka5610]

Once again I have spit my beverage at my computer screen!!!

Moss, you gotta stop drinking something while on TBN!

 

[ToolcatWonka5610]

Hey!

Don't know if anyone told you about how easy it is to tip these things on their nose. If you have a full load right at the lift capacity of the machine and turn the steering wheel left or right, since the machine bends in the middle, it effectively gets shorter when you turn. That moves the center of gravity forward and you tip down on the bucket as the rear wheel come off the ground. You need to know this.

I'm aware of that, Moss. After watching the sales DVD 100+ times I can see the weight shift forward. Thats the thing about articulating FEL tractors, you gotta be careful with a full loader. Same thing happens on our Case 1845C Skid Steer, with a full bucket, a lot of the weight shifts forward.

 

[ToolcatWonka5610]

Once again I have spit my beverage at my computer screen!!!

I'm sure all of us have done that at least once. Man, full throttle forward, full throttle reverse, PT pucker... HEY has anyone warned the kid about that yet? He's gotta know that.

I can easily see that happening....

... from what I've learned just letting people try my 422:

There is NO brake, and when you stomp hard on the left pedal the results are unlike any other equipment I've ever driven. But hitting the left pedal hard (to stop) is the natural reaction for most people. I almost had a large ground-mount solar array destroyed one time (ALMOST... he took both feet off the treadle in the nick of time).

Phil

You reckon he knows about the left/ right pedal, and that there is no foot brake.

Your right J_J, I do know all this, MossRoad and Phils
You guys also have to remember that were getting the 1850 Slope Mower. That one has the Special Braking system when you center the Treadle the brakes come on and IMMEDIATELY stop the tractor. Mainly for when your on a slope and need to stop real quick
My dad wouldn't let me drive anything I couldn't safely operate

 

[J_J]

toolcatwonka5610

Question about your Case 1845C. I have one now, and it has a leak somewhere inside, can't see enough through the hole to do anything. Did you ever clean the hydraulic compartment, if so, what all did you have to do to get to the pumps and hoses , etc and what did you use to clean everything.?

 

[ToolcatWonka5610]

J_J
We had the local Case dealer (Weiss Equipment of Frankenmuth, Michigan) do all the maintainance. We don't really use it a whole lot as I've said before business has slowed and we don't really use it often. Everythin we do now is handled by our JD 5310 and that tractor is even too big for our jobs. Back when we used it often we didn't really have time to do the maintainance our selves so we had the dealer do it.

I'll ask my dad if I get a chance. He's done some work on it.

 

[Charlie_Iliff]

Your right J_J, I do know all this, MossRoad and Phils
You guys also have to remember that were getting the 1850 Slope Mower. That one has the Special Braking system when you center the Treadle the brakes come on and IMMEDIATELY stop the tractor. Mainly for when your on a slope and need to stop real quick
My dad wouldn't let me drive anything I couldn't safely operate

Actually, when you center the treadle, the brakes don't come on if the engine's still running. To put the brake on in that situation, you have to move the brake lever to the left. With the treadle centered, of course, the hydraulic system does stop the tractor, although on really steep slopes it will creep. When you shut down or move the lever, the spring-loaded brakes lock all four.

 

[ToolcatWonka5610]

It doesn't? I heard that if you center the treadle on a TSM machine it stops.
But doesn't it have an emergency brake lever on the brake tender?

 

[MossRoad]

I'm aware of that, Moss. After watching the sales DVD 100+ times I can see the weight shift forward. Thats the thing about articulating FEL tractors, you gotta be careful with a full loader. Same thing happens on our Case 1845C Skid Steer, with a full bucket, a lot of the weight shifts forward.

I know skid steers can get tippy, but since they don't articulate, its not quite the same thing. But at least you know what to expect.

 

[ToolcatWonka5610]

I know skid steers can get tippy, but since they don't articulate, its not quite the same thing. But at least you know what to expect.

I know. It's the closest I've gotten to what you said.
I did almost Tip the 5310 over!

 

[SnowRidge]

I think the point has been missed. The PT is controlled forward and backwards by the feet. Press right foot, go forward. Press left foot, go backwards. In an emergency, most of us have been trained to stomp on the foot brake. There isn't any, but people stomp the non-existent brake pedal anyway, because it is an ingrained emergency response, and go full speed in one direction or the other when they hit the treadle. If it wasn't so frightening and dangerous for someone new to Power Tracs, it would be comical.

The proper emergency response is to lift both feet off of the treadle, which is ingrained behaviour in almost no new Power Trac operators.

You may actually have it easier than your dad, if you haven't been driving anything with foot operated brakes. If you have, you will have to learn the hard way, like most of us. Just do the learning away from anything or anyone you care about.

 

[ToolcatWonka5610]

I think the point has been missed. The PT is controlled forward and backwards by the feet. Press right foot, go forward. Press left foot, go backwards. In an emergency, most of us have been trained to stomp on the foot brake. There isn't any, but people stomp the non-existent brake pedal anyway, because it is an ingrained emergency response, and go full speed in one direction or the other when they hit the treadle. If it wasn't so frightening and dangerous for someone new to Power Tracs, it would be comical.

The proper emergency response is to lift both feet off of the treadle, which is ingrained behaviour in almost no new Power Trac operators.

You may actually have it easier than your dad, if you haven't been driving anything with foot operated brakes. If you have, you will have to learn the hard way, like most of us. Just do the learning away from anything or anyone you care about.

Well, our 5310 has a clutch for going from forward to reverse but it's John Deere's famous PowrReverser and half the time I don't even hit the clutch because it's not nessesary. It's great for loader work
I'm really adaptive to new tractors. After I drive them for awhile I'm set. Once I get the hang of an 1850 I should be okay (I'll have to get the hang of it. I've got 65hp at my hands and feet and if I don't drive it right things could get ugly) But trust me, I'll get it