Thoughts on 02 F450 dump

[ROUSTABOUT]

I have taken vinyl siding coil stock and riveted it over rusted rocker panels. Buy you some time.

 

[aczlan]

I only drive Ford's. Daily has 250,000 miles on it. Never seen a spark plug blow out. Parents drive Ford, brother drives Ford. Brother has a V 10 bucket truck also, drives it as a work truck. I have seen the glass part spit out, but that can happen to any gas engine. Sisters family Ford too.

Ford had an issue with multi-piece plugs coming apart when you removed them due to how they were built with a long snout sticking out past the threads that would build up carbon and then take the plug apart when you tried to remove it.
They also had issues with not enough thread engagement (3.5 threads sticks out in my mind), so if you had any issues putting the plug back in or if the last few threads got messed up removing the multi-piece plug, there wasn't enough thread left to hold the new plug in.

The fix is single piece plugs with more thread replaced every 30,000 to 50,000 miles rather than the 100,000 miles that Ford specifies.

Aaron Z

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

Ford had an issue with multi-piece plugs coming apart when you removed them due to how they were built with a long snout sticking out past the threads that would build up carbon and then take the plug apart when you tried to remove it.
They also had issues with not enough thread engagement (3.5 threads sticks out in my mind), so if you had any issues putting the plug back in or if the last few threads got messed up removing the multi-piece plug, there wasn't enough thread left to hold the new plug in.

The fix is single piece plugs with more thread replaced every 30,000 to 50,000 miles rather than the 100,000 miles that Ford specifies.

Aaron Z

I've probably swapped a solid 200 or more of the 4.6 and 5.4 engines. I have never seen the plug problem. I changed my neighbors plugs on a 5.4, truck had 289,000 miles, first plug change. No problem with it. I've just never seen it, not saying it ain't out there.

 

[crashz]

Roust, I think a lot of the plug issues were corrosion related too. I'm guessing that the trucks down where you are see much less if any road salt. Also from what I remember reading and been told (no first hand knowledge) the 5.4 and the v10 were prone to the issues. The 4.6 didn't seem to have as many issues with plugs.

 

[Hay Dude]

I've probably swapped a solid 200 or more of the 4.6 and 5.4 engines. I have never seen the plug problem. I changed my neighbors plugs on a 5.4, truck had 289,000 miles, first plug change. No problem with it. I've just never seen it, not saying it ain't out there.

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I’m not a Ford hater. All brands suck. lol

 

[jjeff]

I've probably swapped a solid 200 or more of the 4.6 and 5.4 engines. I have never seen the plug problem. I changed my neighbors plugs on a 5.4, truck had 289,000 miles, first plug change. No problem with it. I've just never seen it, not saying it ain't out there.

Imo folks will always take the time to publicly complain of the problems and headaches they have had but rarely will you here about the strength and durability of these trucks. As for spitting out spark plugs an old timer I knew used to use anti seize on plug threads on top of a few other back woods cobbles when he replaced plugs did it work? I guess never talked about problems with the tritons like others.

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

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I’m not a Ford hater. All brands suck. lol

I know, but on the internet you will only hear from the trouble cases. Only thing that scares me is an International with a bad EGR cooler. I just replaced one, plus did the oil cooler too, just because I already was disassembled enough to do it while I was there. It was also a pain because it was parked in a chicken manure shed 20 miles from town. But I pulled it off and got it going. Problem is EGR cooler bolts to exhaust manifold. I heated and oiled them bolts for a week. One broke in manifold. 75 miles to go get parts. Manifold was made in three sections, so then I had to take it apart and install new section. It heated and slipped inside the other section, no bolts. So I get it all ready, heavy, awkward, no help, and it had slipped together too far. Bolts wouldn't go. Back off, re heat, knock it apart a little, worked that time. Had to take turbo and all off.

Then, they ganged up on me. Owner and three grown sons, oldest is 40. Said they done talked to so and so and he said that wasn't the problem with these trucks. Other words, that I was wrong.

That's when my finger was held up vertical and wagging back and forth. I done listened to you, so now you gonna listen to me. After I fix this thing, and oil doesn't fill the radiator any more, I won't work on it anymore, how's that? The old daddy was sitting on a front tractor tire, jumped up, no no no no no. Waving his hands sideways like an umpire saying somebody safe in a ball game.

It went back together and we been using the heck out of it. It was the manure spreader truck. I still work on it. It just broke one of the shafts on the hydraulic drive for one of the spinners on the back. I could mail it to Oklahoma city and they'd fix for 800.00, just imagine shipping, but I found a place in Georgia that sold me the guts for 300.00 shipped so I did it myself. Works fine, don't leak, spins good.

 

[jjeff]

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I’m not a Ford hater. All brands suck. lol

For me it's always been a matter if the equipment can get the job done especially if it's older and inexpensive, rarely cared about what it looked like or if creature comfort and conveniences worked never allowing me to be nickel and dimed by a broken dented passenger door ( that's what bungee chords are for lol) to me splurging on something is putting cheap used sometimes cracked fender flares on dented perforated fenders to help keep mud off the windshield)rusted out rocker panels, or faulty instrument lights, etc don't bother me. Plus if the equipment is not show room qaulity you can comfortably add backwoods modifications that I'd never do to newer more expensive stuff. I probably cater to similar folks when I sell used "junk" factoring in to selling price (when I can't find more uses for it), all the money I saved using it, instead of hiring it out and saved by backwoods non OEM approved fixes. I'm still a strong believer in OEM approved pm on equipment usually a little bit above. Granted I'm not commercial so I can get away with what some would consider "butchery" a lot easier than most operations. I guess that labels me as a machinery "cobbler" operating somewhat reliably, safely on gravel roads, two tracks, and my various properties for a few decades lol.

 

[jjeff]

Ok so all this talk of smaller dump trucks got me interested in them again so I tried placing a prebid on an old 30+ yr old Dodge rwd gasser dump truck to my surprise (not really) my prebid was more than what I paid for my original GMC 3500 didn't even come close to a qualifying bid. The auction hasn't even started yet and the truck appears to visually be in worse condition then when I bought mine and my truck was 4 yrs newer . Good luck buying 1ton + used up dump trucks at reasonable prices in this day and age.

 

[jjeff]

Apologies for the hijacked meme but only 6 hrs left to bid on this gem. My prediction 2500.00+ not including buyers fees.