tractor broken

[massey john white]

Hi
New to forum. I have a broken MF2310. The left front axle assy. is making a clicking sound. It locks the wheel after a bit of travel. If I hold back on the 4wd lever it does not do it. I have a service manual. It seems like it may be the pinion gear. Anyone have any input? Is this a diy repair?
Thanks
MJW

 

[ray66v]

I only know of one other pinion failure in a front diff. It was some time ago.

The owner did do his own repair.

Were you using the 4 WD when the problem started?

 

[brian p1]

I had a pinion gear strip (gc 2310) had growling noise from the front diff in 4wd, quiet in 2wd, might want to check with the dealer for warranty or a bit of help.

 

[massey john white]

Hi ray66v. Yes, I was using the 4wd when the problem first started. I got the MF used and did not check the axle fluid. DUH. When it started clicking I checked and it was low. I filled it to specs. with Hyd,fluid. I did not hear the clicking after that until the wheel suddenly started dragging. I have not worked on tractor axle assemblies but I may try it myself. I know Agco parts are over priced and I would think service is also. I am 100 mi. from the closest dealer.

 

[massey john white]

Hi, brian p1. Thanks for the reply. Mine is noisy in 4 & 2wd. I am going to contact the dealer and see if they are helpful.

 

[ray66v]

It isn't just ACGO parts that are expensive, all tractor, and equipment parts are over priced. I have a Toro fairway mower, any given part for that is about twice what it would cost on my MF.

Jacks Small Engines sells on the internet and discounts parts for this unit.

I would recommend that you don't use the hydraulic fluid in the front diff when your finished with the repair, use EP gear lube. Also consider synthetic oil in there if it gets cold where you live.

 

[ray66v]

If I remember correctly he said MF determined his gears were not sufficiently hardened, and they gave him new ones.

They seem to be less generous now with units that are well past the end of their warranty.

 

[massey john white]

I guess I will know more when I tear it down. Thanks all for responses. Later,
Warren

 

[amkfken]

I am the person with the shelled pinion gear, yes it was out of warranty by almost 2 years, was taken to the closest dealer (80) miles, not the selling dealer (out of business).
The M-F tech? on his next visit did warranty it, just cost me gas for 2 trips.
Did NOT need new bearings.
This was only noisy in 4wd.
Get some gear lube in it after rebuild, about a 3 hr job, good luck!

 

[massey john white]

amkfken Thanks, guy. Any problems since? Mine is noisy in 2 & 4, so I may have more involved? Going to get into it this week. Will post. Thanks.

 

[irvingj]

Hi and welcome to TBN!

Please post some pics as you progress if you can. Us 2310 owners would like to know! BTW, how many hours on yours? What year is it?

 

[amkfken]

No problems, no leaks, as I said did not replace any bearings/ seals, did flush out the axle after disassembly, no significant metal shavings.
600+ hrs to date(GC2300)

 

[massey john white]

I pulled the pinion SAt. It is toast. I am wondering if the axle shaft and diff. assy. can be removed without dropping the housing. There were no big nuggets in the fluid, just a small amount of fine shavings. When I pull the axle I should see more. The pinion gear did not look like it was sheared off, just pushed aside and flattened. Tried to post pics but no luck.

 

[ray66v]

The pinion gear did not look like it was sheared off, just pushed aside and flattened.

That is what amkfken found.

 

[massey john white]

Yes, I saw amkfken's pic of the shaft. Mine is a twin.

 

[amkfken]

m j w ---you might try puling a picture of my pinion and taking it to your dealer along with yours. Ask why yours shouldn't qualify for a free replacement as the M-F rep that authorized mine also admitted that it was a common problem on the GC's and some 1500 series due to soft steel gears at a certain time period!!
Never hurts to ask, doesn't cost the dealer anything!
Don't know the cost of the gear, probably more than $19.95--but wait--etc. etc.etc.
Good luck!

 

[massey john white]

Thanks amkfken. I got everything out and contacted the dealer. The parts are ordered. 10 days to 2 wks. He said he did not know anything about M F replacing those parts but would check. They have a revision on the part #'s , so that tells me that M F is aware. The pinion shaft is $149.20 & the ring gear is $101.72. The bearings all seem o.k. after flushing. I did not drop the MMM or FEL so that made disassembly a lot more trouble than necessary. Live and learn they say. Will post what I find out.

 

[ray66v]

The very least they should do is replace the known defective parts.

Make sure you mention you have a large audience on the internet awaiting their decision. :thumbsup:

 

[JerryG]

When I worked parts there was a lot of revisions. They were very, very few parts that were revised that had any problem. It was like they had some desk jockeys that needed something to do to look busy so they changed the suffix.

 

[massey john white]

amkfken--Question? Did you disassemble the final drive case and outer wheel housing, or just flush?