TX 2160F, with front loader and backhoe, long term project

[chrismac]

Any work done on the backhoe?

I need to start a project soon to connect some custom-made backhoe (excavator?) onto my tx1500. Yours also looks like non-standard, so i am really curious how it is (supposed to be) connected...?

thx M.

Mine was manufactured by a company called Polymark, Beaver, There are long plate metal parts which fit along the full lenght of the tractor(removed at the moment) you can also see on the rear of the tractor there are some quite heavy duty brackets attached to the 2 mounting plates like you have just purchased, basically to fit the backhoe you would reverse the tractor onto it and it would pick up the 2 locating brackets with a couple of diagonal braces down and forward to infront of the rear wheels where it would puck up points to attach to, if you have a look through my thread you should be able to work out how it attached, as there is a few photos of the tractor coming off the backhoe and some of the backhoe getting stripped.

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I am sure you can work out from here how it was attached,

Chris

 

[marcelPL]

Ok thanks, i will re-visit your photos again and try to puzzle it. I cannot start this project within the next few weeks, so i have time...

Does your backhoe use it's own hydraulic pump connected to PTO? Or the tractor's?

 

[chrismac]

Ok thanks, i will re-visit your photos again and try to puzzle it. I cannot start this project within the next few weeks, so i have time...

Does your backhoe use it's own hydraulic pump connected to PTO? Or the tractor's?

It has a oil tank, you can just make out the filter fitted (yellow in colour) to the tank, it is in the make up of the sheets metal frame work, it used a PTO hydraulic pump.

There are a few of the same type of set ups on this forum so you may see other pictures should you wish to find them also.

 

[marcelPL]

Ok super, thanks for the info!

 

[chrismac]

Its been a while since I have updated this thread but some work is still going on, tonight I gave the spool valves a clean up which were housed under the seat, thankfully there was still oil in the system so although externally they are in a poor state, internally they are pretty clean,

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Debris under the leavers which were stuck solid, things are out of focus a little, (sorry)
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reassembled with both leavers moving nice and free,
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More updates soon as I am just back from a 1000miles round trip to collect an identical backhoe as to the one that was fitted, thats going to be work in progress soon.

Chris

 

[chrismac]

Here is my replacment back hoe set together to see whats needed, the jacks need to come off as they seem stuck, I have not managed to get much done recently due to other things taking over, but I will get back to it at some point.

It was missing 1 ram but thankfully 1 ram is usable from the original, some hoses need replaced and I need the PTO pump.

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[marcelPL]

Where did you find it? This 'LELY' is a big Dutch company I happen to know.

You may be able to skip the PTO pump because it is an expensive (and hard to find) part of this operation. Just cut one of your hydraulic hoses on the tractor side, equip them with a bajonet connection, and do the same for the hydraulic part of the back-hoe. It's what i did, works like a charm, and saved a lot of money.

 

[chrismac]

Where did you find it? This 'LELY' is a big Dutch company I happen to know.

You may be able to skip the PTO pump because it is an expensive (and hard to find) part of this operation. Just cut one of your hydraulic hoses on the tractor side, equip them with a bajonet connection, and do the same for the hydraulic part of the back-hoe. It's what i did, works like a charm, and saved a lot of money.

I found it in the UK, down in the south of England, that's interesting Lely is a dutch company, they must have has stuff imported to the UK in days gone past, maybe they still do?

So have you Tee'd into the flow and return pipes of your spool valves, probably with a power beyond line connected too, that is certainly something to consider if I cant find a pto pump.

 

[marcelPL]

This Lely company is really big, about 1500 people working there, at this moment on the high-tech side of agro (Oplossingen voor de veehouderij - Lely)

On the oil: I already had a flexible pipe installed from the oil-pump into the 3point. So i just cut it, and made a bajonet connection between cuts to re-connect it.

Now if i want to connect something external to the hydraulics, i just make sure to have the same bajonet connections onto it (male/female), and i can run it.

Going into a pro pump will throw you in the direction of:
- a lot of money
- a lot of weight (from what i read you need something like a 40 or 50 liter oil reservoir.

If you need photo's just ask, good luck on your new toy. I am playing with this custom-made backhoe for quite a few months now. You were right: it is a money pit.

 

[chrismac]

Marcel, the oil reservoir is built into the frame work of the back hoe so thats covered, lots for me to think about going forward.

 

[chrismac]

Today I gave the front turf wheels some tubes as the tired are perrished, not really needing a set yet but they might come in handy so I set about repairing the one that had rusted through, I managed to beg some steel from an old electrical cabinet that was the correct thickness then cut out the old part and replaced and mig welded the new section in.

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Considering how long I have had theseI should have dont it far sooner as it only took about an hour or so, I will wait until I find a set of tires at the right money then give the wheels a paint.

 

[marcelPL]

That's some serious garbage you have to work with... And you have got some serious skills there to fix it... I wish you were my neighbour...

 

[chrismac]

That's some serious garbage you have to work with... And you have got some serious skills there to fix it... I wish you were my neighbour...

haha, marcel its each to their own I guess, for me this repair was simple, its my line of work so that helps, its just the motivation at times I struggle with and depending how tidy or untidy the garage is and if I can get to my welder!!!!

Thanks for your kind comment

 

[Firew00d]

Hi ChrisMac.
I have a tx2160 and have just acquired the same front loader. I知 looking to understand how to connect up the hydraulics. Any pointers?

 

[chrismac]

Hi, there is a hydraulic block under the seat which the pipes are plumbed into, althought I have the set up its all been removed to get cleaned up and I need to have long think about how it goes back together, 2 years have passed, I did take lots of photos so hopefully that will help.

Sorry I can not be more of a help.

 

[Firew00d]

Thanks Chrismac. I think I have the hydraulic side of things sorted out... which may well mean I dont

What I definitely dont have is the frame that the loader u shaped bracket sits on. Do you have any pictures of yours? Im going to attempt to make one....

 

[chrismac]

I have had a look if you study the photos in post 3, you can make out the flat bars that run the lenght of the tractor, bolted onto the lower engine mounts, the back hoe then connects onto channel irons with a pin and a lynch pin to keep it located with a bar along the back end and forks for it to also connect as the rear has the main weight of the back hoe,
I am planning making a start at this again so will manage to get some pics over the next while, it was August last year you asked so I might have some time to help you out:drink:

 

[Firew00d]

Thanks. I never was accused of moving quickly!

The difficulty that I have is that my tractor is in Ireland and I am in Manchester. I have bought the front end loader here... but did not get the frame with it. So I have got to make a frame here and transport it to Ireland.... where it will absolutely fit. There is not a doubt in my mind.

I do have the original parts catalogue, service manual and operation manual and a tape measure.

My hydraulic set up is the same as yours too. I have plenty of pics of it, if you need any.

 

[chrismac]

Thanks. I never was accused of moving quickly!

The difficulty that I have is that my tractor is in Ireland and I am in Manchester. I have bought the front end loader here... but did not get the frame with it. So I have got to make a frame here and transport it to Ireland.... where it will absolutely fit. There is not a doubt in my mind.

I do have the original parts catalogue, service manual and operation manual and a tape measure.

My hydraulic set up is the same as yours too. I have plenty of pics of it, if you need any.

Here is a picture of the flat bars that run the length of the tractor, if you only have the front loader you wonty need them full length.
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Not much use I know but gives you an idea of what I had, hopefully you will see from other pictures how it was made up, not easy to fabricate and take to Ireland and fit first time, good luck on that one.

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I have tried adding pictures which help, I dont have access to the parts at the moment, I will at some point though.

Cheers for the offer of photos of you hydraulics, that might come in handy.

 

[keenlanp]

Other folks have commented on this, but where was that tractor located when you found it, a jungle in Borneo? I have seen a lot of old farm machinery, but I have never seen anything with rust like that. You are a champ for committing to bringing at least one of those tractors back to life. Keep up the good work and good luck.