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George2615

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LS XR3037HC
Bought a new to me trailer today. It's a 2013 new leftover PJ Model TF222 tilt bed. 83" between the fenders, Removable fenders, Sealed wiring harness, LED lighting, Overall length of deck is 23' 2" including the 30" knife edge tail, Dexter EZ lube 7000# torsion axles, powder coated paint, optional 12K drop leg jack (10K is standard),Stake pockets and rub rail, Power up and down, dual hydraulic cylinders, 14,000# GVWR, 14,000 rated 2 5/16" coupler,3" channel cross members on 16" spacing, 235/80R16 E rated tires on 8 lug rims, chain tray under tongue box, battery charger, and a spare wheel and tire. I still have to add a 12K winch, a separate chain and binder box, and the spare tire mount bracket.
This trailer replaced my 2006 H&H 20' tilt bed 7K trailer which I had outgrown and recently sold.
 

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Very nice trailer! I love my PJ dump trailer, it's an 07 and still looks great.

My brother has been looking for a tilt deck to haul his Mustang on. That would be a nice trailer for that.
 
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If I may be so bold to ask, what kind of $$$ did she run?
 
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If I may be so bold to ask, what kind of $$$ did she run?

And does she have a remote for the power up and down?
 
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Good looking trailer.
 
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Very nice trailer! I love my PJ dump trailer, it's an 07 and still looks great.

My brother has been looking for a tilt deck to haul his Mustang on. That would be a nice trailer for that.

I don't think this trailer would be too good to haul a mustang on. Fenders are quite high. For hauling a car you need low fenders so you can open the door to get out. On my PJ a car door will hit the fender. I will at some point be hauling a car and not looking forward to climbing out the window. The fenders on my 14K PJ are high so the 16" tires have clearance. They are removable but not an easy task as they are bolted. My previous 7K tilt bed was made by H&H trailers and is an excellent car hauler. The fenders also are easily removable by lifting 2 rubber hold down bungees then lifting off the fenders. I highly recommend an H&H E/X Speedloader for your brother's car hauler. I had to move up from a 7K because my LS tractor was over the capacity of the H&H 7K. The H&H's are available from 18-24' for tilt bed 7K's. I'd recommend a wood deck but they a;sp have metal and rumber (rubber coated lumber). I don't know why I didn't think of them when I was looking because they have 12 and 14K option for the tilt's. Here's a link.

H & H Trailers :: EX Speedloader
 
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Nice trailer. Love that wrap around tongue as well. That's the way my dad's 20 year old car trailer is made as well. Gives it extra strength. If I ever had a need to buy another car trailer it'd definitely be PJ.

If I would have had more material I would've done a full wrap around tongue on my converted trailer.

I plan to build a single axle utility trailer about 10 ft long sometime and will do the wrap around tongue.

Have fun with your trailer. :)
 
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Wrap around tongue? What's that?
Light duty, non wrap around tongue.
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Heavy duty wrap around tongue. Note the red line.
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OP's trailer.
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Nice trailer George. I think you might be alright on getting a car door open. With a 22' trailer the door might be in front of the fender, it is on my 20.'
 
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Light duty, non wrap around tongue.
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Heavy duty wrap around tongue. Note the red line.
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OP's trailer.
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I see it now. Thanks
 
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Can you post a pic of how they do their removable fenders. Just trying to figure out how best to do mine.
 
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I'm just north of you in the Watertown area, George. Just wondered what dealer you used. Not actively looking at the moment, but may sell/trade dump trailer at some point and go for a tilt bed for my S185 Bobcat. So far a couple of online inquiries up this way have gone unanswered.
The dump isn't used for a dump all that much. Maybe 4-5 times in 3 years. The S185 fits in it, but it has to be backed on and clearance is only a couple inches either side.
 
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Can you post a pic of how they do their removable fenders. Just trying to figure out how best to do mine.

The removable fenders on my PJ are removable but not user friendly. There is what appears to be a 2x2 piece of tubing welded to the frame that sticks out to support the fenders. There is a single bolt (1 front, 1 back) going through to hold the fenders in place. To remove the fenders you have to remove the 2 bolts, then pop out the side marker lamps in each fender to unplug them, then fenders can be lifted off. Note that fenders do not have any lifting handles and are heavy diamond plate steel. I can only assume they are only removable for ease of servicing the axles / brakes. They are not field use quick removable.
My previous H&H 20' tilt bed did have user friendly removable fenders held on with 2 rubber hold downs and lift handles. Although, in the 8 years I owned the H&H I only removed them a few times. They were also much lower and did not stick up above the deck very much.
Here's the PJ fenders.
 

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I'm just north of you in the Watertown area, George. Just wondered what dealer you used. Not actively looking at the moment, but may sell/trade dump trailer at some point and go for a tilt bed for my S185 Bobcat. So far a couple of online inquiries up this way have gone unanswered.
The dump isn't used for a dump all that much. Maybe 4-5 times in 3 years. The S185 fits in it, but it has to be backed on and clearance is only a couple inches either side.

Todd,
I sent you a PM.
I also have a Cross Country dump trailer. 16' x 80" wide with 10K capacity. I have hauled my LS tractor in mine with plenty of room but the PJ will be so much easier. For your S185 you don't need a 22' trailer. There are many 16-18' tilts available for much lower prices.
 
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Thanks. I had a similar idea but I was thinking if using pins. I have a structure that's close to that 2x2. Mainly I'd at least like Id like to do the drivers fender.
Thanks for the pics
 
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Thanks. I had a similar idea but I was thinking if using pins. I have a structure that's close to that 2x2. Mainly I'd at least like Id like to do the drivers fender.
Thanks for the pics

If mine didn't have the side marker lamps in them I would replace the bolts / nuts with pins and add lift handles for easy removal. Cold weather is coming quick here this year (35 degrees this morning). If I decide to modify mine I may not have time to work on this till next spring.
 

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