Walmart brand tractor fluids

[kenmac]

Price in todays world has NO CONNECTION to "product quality"...EXCEPT the very best of any product will cost more than the very worst of the same product...but to think that just because you are paying more..you are getting more...if foolhardy at the minimum.



So , I guess your $1.50 W.M. brand motor oil is no different / better in quality than the $5.00 a quart m-1 F.S. oil ?? I would love to have a V.O.A. on the 2 brands to prove you are soooo wrong !!

I wonder then, why some things/ products cost more / less than others if there is no difference in the given product's quality

 

[joerocker]

I wonder then, why some things/ products cost more / less than others if there is no difference in the given product's quality

Now you're dreaming... Come on, you must admit that oftentimes there is NO appreciable difference between two almost identical products except what they cost.

Since this is a tractor forum, we're all probably familiar with cars and trucks. The difference IN COST between an economy car and a tricked out big truck is NOT the $30,000 price difference! The big truck MAY cost twice as much to produce but will cost 4X more. It's profit, pure and simple, they charge what they can. If they could get enough people to pay it, you'd see $50 a quart oil.

 

[Sully2]

Price in todays world has NO CONNECTION to "product quality"...EXCEPT the very best of any product will cost more than the very worst of the same product...but to think that just because you are paying more..you are getting more...if foolhardy at the minimum.



So , I guess your $1.50 W.M. brand motor oil is no different / better in quality than the $5.00 a quart m-1 F.S. oil ?? I would love to have a V.O.A. on the 2 brands to prove you are soooo wrong !!

I wonder then, why some things/ products cost more / less than others if there is no difference in the given product's quality

THIS IS WHAT I POSTED"
"Price in todays world has NO CONNECTION to "product quality"...EXCEPT the very best of any product will cost more than the very worst of the same product...but to think that just because you are paying more..you are getting more...if foolhardy at the minimum."
. YOU put the twist on things to make it sound as you would prefer them to sound...nothing more..nothing less!

If you cant see the difference between what "I" posted and what YOU replied..then you had best keep on paying $5 a qt for oil. BTW..tell me when you make a purchase..I want to sell tickets to that circus

 

[art]

Looks like a bunch of people that have nothing better to do here then write of their precieved quality values!!! Bring on the yugo!!!

 

[BillyP]

Looks like a bunch of people that have nothing better to do here then write of their precieved quality values!!! Bring on the yugo!!!

Hi Art, glad to see you're still out there giving good advice.

This post doesn't have a thing to do with hydraulic oil but I think it would go hand in hand. Not to prove anything but it may give you a hint...

Here's something everyone can do. Go to your local trucking company and ask them what oil they use

 

[art]

Billy, I just enjoy reading what people write on the boards from there experience. Would I trust walmart oil? On my car at three thousand miles or less and on a tractor engine less then 100 hours and not at all in a hydro. But if I could spend fifty cents more a quart and go two hundred plus hours why not!!!!

No equipment manufacturer has the money to go after an oil company no mater what it says!!!!

I can buy Warren oil products at NAPA stores and there is a place for everything. After all some compacts I see have a lot of leaks and why put a good oil in if your only trying to keep the grass and weeds down in your yard?

Walmart pricing is far being good unless you look for their advertised specials!

Billy have any of the kids taken to wanting to be on the tractor yet?

 

[kenmac]

THIS IS WHAT I POSTED"
"Price in todays world has NO CONNECTION to "product quality"...EXCEPT the very best of any product will cost more than the very worst of the same product...but to think that just because you are paying more..you are getting more...if foolhardy at the minimum."
. YOU put the twist on things to make it sound as you would prefer them to sound...nothing more..nothing less!

If you cant see the difference between what "I" posted and what YOU replied..then you had best keep on paying $5 a qt for oil. BTW..tell me when you make a purchase..I want to sell tickets to that circus

SO, I guess you'er saying mobil-1 or any other quality oil is clearly out of the question for you , Because of the cost & there being no real difference in oil quality between brand X vs brand Z no matter how much $ you spend.? Now I understand where you'er comming from.

 

[Soundguy]

Exactly... When I was in college I worked for a factory that makes water meters.. one of the largest in the world by the way... We made many different types of meters.. withing each type.. there were different series.. for instance.. a basic, silver and gold series. In that particular situation.. the diff between basic and silver/gold was a small plastic housing vs a metal housing one one o fthe parts... purly cosmetic by the way.. no difference in operation. All moving parts the same to. Diff between silver and gold was warranty... IE .. the customer paid more $$ for the 'gold' line than the silver.. and it was made on the same assembly line and had a longer warranty... was it a better product cuz it cost more? Yeah right.

It's all over like that. I bought my laptop online from HP.. I spec'ed out 2 systems.. an hp 4000 model, and a copaq 4000 model.. same features.. processor.. memory, video, drives, screen.. etc.. 100% same options. The only difference was the startup bios screen on one said HP, and it had an HP medalion... vs a compaq bios startup screen, and a compaq medalion on the case. I saved nearly 300$ by choosing a different name. The person I talked to when I calle din to check on the order even mentioned it was the same vomputer, as did the tech support people when i called in with a question..

There are literally dozens examples of this in every facet of society....

For my night job I work in many restaurant venue's.. In one particular place they have a large building with a single central kitchen that services a restaurant on an upstairs floor, and another restaurant/bar on a downstairs floor, as well as a bowling alley in the back of the building.

The same food, cooks and all prepair all the food for the bowling alley, bar, and fine dining restaurant.

The same beef patty from sysco foods gets cooked for all 3 places.. yet costs 5.50 in the bowling alley, 7.50 in the bar, and 8.50 in the fine dining restaurant.

By the logic presented by many in this thread, the most expensive burger must be better cause it costs more.. and the most expensive water meter must be better cause more was charged for it due to it's longer warranty.

Soundguy

Price in todays world has NO CONNECTION to "product quality"...EXCEPT the very best of any product will cost more than the very worst of the same product...but to think that just because you are paying more..you are getting more...if foolhardy at the minimum.

Far too many companys today ( oil; lightbulbs; oil filters..etc) produce the same identical product packaged TWO DIFFERENT WAYS..and charge more for one over the other!! Better product because you paid more $$??...*raspberry!!!!*

 

[D7E]

Similar scenario , People on this site seem to bash fram filters for poor quality?
I had a 150hp JD tractor with 16'000 hrs and was wore right out , it was shot,
The fram oil filter collapsed and seized the motor,We approached fram for compensation and they never questioned the condition of the motor they just stood the bill for a new motor plus labour no problem .In my opinion using the cheap brand benefitted me the motor was shot anyway so i got a new one for nothing .

 

[dberry]

You've got to apply some common sense to any purchase.

You pay for what you get might be more appropriate.

Land... you can buy land in some desert areas for 100 bucks an acre, or land in a mid priced area for 5000 bucks. Or if you are flush, 500K or more per acre in some areas. I like the medium price area with running water from a stream.

Guns... Remington or mossberg shotguns. Pretty close all things considered. I wouldn't depend on anything cheaper. That raven .22 you got a great deal on will work most of the time. You can spend 20K on a really nice shotgun if you are rich and not think twice about it though.

Food/drink... Some folks pay more for chevas, some are happy with a 40 oz malt liquor. Both will serve the same purpose. I buy sam's cola from walmart.

oil... I've been a mobil 1 user for roughly 2 decades. Will the cheap stuff work? of course. I'm pretty happy extending the oil change interval to 10K miles of highway driving and don't think twice about it. My time is worth more than a 3000 mile oil change.

Tools... In a pinch I've bought junk wrenches to get a job done when mine weren't available. They will serve ok for a bit. A mechanic would be poorly served by the cheapest they could get. Snapon is too expensive for most of us, but it's a quality tool that will last. Craftsman is about right for me and my uses.

Virtually anything sold on TV is crap in my book but many folks are satisfied with what they get.

Just apply a little logic to what you are buying, what it is for, how long you expect it to last and the support behind the product and all of this is a non-issue.