Who really makes what?

   / Who really makes what? #31  
More than just being handy, the extra foot of lift is a logical explanation for the reduced capacity. Both base units being identical, the higher a loader takes weight, the less weight the base tractor's weight can keep stable. Lifting to a set height both loaders can reach, I'd bet the capacities are closer that we might think.

The extra height would account for some of the reduced lift capacity, but I doubt 36% difference. As already mentioned, the breakout force is also significantly higher for the LS, 4,354lbs versus 3,470lbs...884lbs difference. I think it's pretty fair to say the LS loader has a clear edge in power, but not height.
 
   / Who really makes what?
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#32  
So why buy a New Holland (or Case or Massey...) when the actual maker sells functionally the same unit at presumably a lower price?

Access to dealers and parts? Any other reason?

And here's a semi-related question: what is the general consensus on the quality of Iseki made machines?
 
   / Who really makes what? #33  
So why buy a New Holland (or Case or Massey...) when the actual maker sells functionally the same unit at presumably a lower price?

Access to dealers and parts? Any other reason?

And here's a semi-related question: what is the general consensus on the quality of Iseki made machines?

Because some people don't take the time to research, and learn about these things. Also, some people believe that by buying the Case or NH version, they will have better dealer support and parts availability.

And, as stupid as it sounds, when I was shopping around, I would have rather bought the Bobcat version of the Kioti, only because I like the name recognition and color scheme better. I had already owned a Kioti and liked the quality, so I knew it would b a good machine either way.

Personal idiosyncrasies have an effect at times that defy reasoning.

Iseki makes Massey Ferguson, and the general consensus is that Massey is a quality machine.
 
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#34  
Is it dumb of me to think I would rather have a Japanese sourced tractor than a Korean one? For some reason I tend to lean toward Japanese products over any other offshore producer country. Maybe it's because I've had such good luck with Toyota products over the years.

How much of a price premium must one pay for the domestically produced Deere products over comparable imported units?
 
   / Who really makes what? #35  
Is it dumb of me to think I would rather have a Japanese sourced tractor than a Korean one? For some reason I tend to lean toward Japanese products over any other offshore producer. Maybe it's because I've had such good luck with Toyota products over the years.

Go with what your Heart tells you. I'd sooner have German
 
   / Who really makes what? #36  
]Not the Boomer 3040,45, & 50 super suite tractors. .. Those are still Shibaura.

The only part of the CVT super suite that's shibaura is the engine and front axles. They have nothing to do with transmission or the cab.
 
   / Who really makes what? #38  
I personally think in today's world of CNC machining, it all comes down to design. Purchase a machine that is designed best for the tasks you need it to perform, do the maintenance as directed by whatever manufacturer it is, and whatever it is will serve you well. The days of everything being sourced from a single region are done, manufacturing has gone global.
 

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