Why SSQA?

[k0ua]

Indeed, My mistake. It was an L3901. I'm basically comparing the JD 3039R and the Kubota L3901. Leaning Green, but the money is still in the bank at the moment

The L3901 if it has a quick hitch at all, as it is an option, would be SSQA compatible. :thumbsup:

 

[Musdalen]

Thanks to everyone here. A lot of good suggestions and ideas were put forward that I greatly appreciate. We closed the deal tonight on a new machine. It will not have SSQA, but I did decide that I would change my choice of implements to better match what we need to do and they will all be JD QA. Primarily, I decided to forego the pallet forks I had been considering for a grapple that will excel at what the forks only did adequately.

It will take a couple of weeks to get her here, but again, thanks for all your comments. This thread, in particular, got me thinking about things besides just SSQA and that was really helpful.

 

[ovrszd]

Didn't bother to read all this thread. The video in the first post is stupid. Didn't latch/unlatch anything, sped up the video. Did I miss something? So deceiving.

Congrats on the new tractor!!!!

 

[k0ua]

Didn't bother to read all this thread. The video in the first post is stupid. Didn't latch/unlatch anything, sped up the video. Did I miss something? So deceiving.

Congrats on the new tractor!!!!

Yeah, I don't get why retailers always leave out the details of how to actually attach implements. Like hooking up a grapple for instance. You get it on the carrier, shut off the tractor, run the hydraulics back and forth a couple of times to release any pressure in the lines, set the parking brake, (don't want the dang thing running over you azz) dismount the tractor, throw the lever or levers for SSQA, or put in the pins and latch them for JDQA, Then remove the quick couplers dirt covers, then hook up the quick couplers, hook up your hose management, bungy cord, spring thingy or whatever you use, crawl back on the machine, fire her up, test the lid function and make sure you look and see that the latches actually latched so the implement does not fall off when you dump, release the brake and take off.

Now I make this sound like a "big deal", and it really isn't, it all goes pretty fast, but to just get an implement on the carrier and act like that is all there is to make it ready to work is total bullstuff. and to then show going back and forth in changing implements is just deceptive. Newbys, actually believe their lying eyes and think that is all there is to it.

 

[Wagtail]

Didn't bother to read all this thread. The video in the first post is stupid. Didn't latch/unlatch anything, sped up the video. Did I miss something? So deceiving.

Congrats on the new tractor!!!!

See my post #13, second paragraph. Yes, it was deceiving.

 

[Xfaxman]

Read the grapple threads, almost everyone that gets a grapple says "I wish I would have got it much sooner"

Look at the fun you can have with a grapple: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/211635-grappling-fun-picture-thread.html

xfaxman.

I can see where you are going, but I'll hold off even so. If, 10+ yrs from now, I'm still kicking and need it, I'll probably be happy to spend the cash, and happier still that the money I could have spent on the SSQA was well invested and earned the price of a nice shiny new JDQA grapple in the meantime .


But you warned me, so you get first dibs on "I told ya so"

Thanks to everyone here. A lot of good suggestions and ideas were put forward that I greatly appreciate. We closed the deal tonight on a new machine. It will not have SSQA, but I did decide that I would change my choice of implements to better match what we need to do and they will all be JD QA. Primarily, I decided to forego the pallet forks I had been considering for a grapple that will excel at what the forks only did adequately. ----------

"I told ya so" :laughing:

 

[Musdalen]

Yup, you win. I didn't waste and time losing either. Spent last weekend cutting and splitting firewood and wishing I had a grapple handy. In fact, it will probably get more use than the loader bucket.

You guys got the bug in my ear, and about a week later, I threw in the towel.

I did ditch the idea of mowing my lawn with a belly mower on this rig. Actually, I had to convince my wife that wasn't going to fly. Having done that, I now have financial space to get a grapple.

 

[IH782]

The SSQA is self adjusting as it wears the JDQA is not. A HUGE selling point for me. It would annoy the crap out of me if the bucket was loose in its carrier.

 

[Musdalen]

I don't see that happening at all.

 

[CADplans]

My DIYed SSQA actually came off a SS,,

Unlike others,,, I took the time to engage the latches!! - :laughing:

I used the original mounting holes to attach hooks.
With the "in close" location of the hooks,, the lifting power is phenomenal!!

 

[k0ua]

Yup, you win. I didn't waste and time losing either. Spent last weekend cutting and splitting firewood and wishing I had a grapple handy. In fact, it will probably get more use than the loader bucket.

You guys got the bug in my ear, and about a week later, I threw in the towel.

I did ditch the idea of mowing my lawn with a belly mower on this rig. Actually, I had to convince my wife that wasn't going to fly. Having done that, I now have financial space to get a grapple.

That sounds like a win, win to me...

 

[k0ua]

My DIYed SSQA actually came off a SS,,

Unlike others,,, I took the time to engage the latches!! - :laughing:

I used the original mounting holes to attach hooks.
With the "in close" location of the hooks,, the lifting power is phenomenal!!

Dang, that is one heavy duty looking adaptor...

 

[Xfaxman]

Yep, it shows how much they lightened the SSQA for use on a tractor.

This is the one on my Bobcat V417 Versahandler:

 

[DK35vince]

This is the one that came on my compact tractor. (a factory option when I bought my 2001 DK 35 new)
Plenty strong enough across I added a hook in the middle to use it for lifting.

 

[k0ua]

This is the one that came on my compact tractor. (a factory option when I bought my 2001 DK 35 new)
Plenty strong enough across I added a hook in the middle to use it for lifting.

That is so different than what is on my DK35se.

 

[N2DFire]

Yup, you win. I didn't waste and time losing either. Spent last weekend cutting and splitting firewood and wishing I had a grapple handy. In fact, it will probably get more use than the loader bucket.

You guys got the bug in my ear, and about a week later, I threw in the towel.

I did ditch the idea of mowing my lawn with a belly mower on this rig. Actually, I had to convince my wife that wasn't going to fly. Having done that, I now have financial space to get a grapple.

Like a lot of others I have read here; we keep the grapple on all the time unless we have a specific need for the bucket or forks (if I had enough tractor/loader to grab a round bale of hay and pick it up I wouldn't even need the forks lol).

You'll run across ways they are handy without even expecting it. I love having it when I'm bush hogging because if I run up on something in the way (tree limb, rocks, trash, etc) I just pick it up and keep mowing till I get to a place I can toss it on the trash or rock piles.

You won't regret this for a second. :thumbsup:

Congratulations - you know we expect pictures.

 

[Musdalen]

I've got plenty of grapple work to do. I suspect the grapple will be my.most used implement.

Pictures will come, I owe all of you that. However, he tractor will be here in 7 to 10 days, but the grapple will not arrive until early March. Meanwhile, tractor work awaits. Several years of firewood needs cutting, splitting, and hauling. 50 fence posts await frost thaw. Gravel work too. Then brush piling and, well, it never ends.

 

[paulfun9]

Proprietary in this context means non-universal. You can find attachments out there from other makers but you won't find those coupling devices on anything but Deere loaders. Any way you slice it, the market and supply for these attachments is a fraction of those made and sold for SSQA or euro couplers.

This and the fact that every single attachment I priced was more expensive with the JD only system is why even my JD has SSQA and I wont buy a tractor with anything else on it unless the cost of switching is taken out of the price.

My friend has complained several times that he cant borrow any of my attachments and he has to wait till he has the money to buy for his specific set up. Then it happened after he started buying JD only attachments he had problems with the tractor and after fighting with the dealers and JD to have it fixed he decided to sell his JD and go with Kioti because he had been so impressed with mine. He then complained that he had to sell all his JD only attachments and shop for SSQA for the Kioti.



For me it just doesn't make any sense to buy something so limited when the majority of the market uses the SSQA.

 

[Wagtail]

This and the fact that every single attachment I priced was more expensive with the JD only system is why even my JD has SSQA and I wont buy a tractor with anything else on it unless the cost of switching is taken out of the price.

My friend has complained several times that he cant borrow any of my attachments and he has to wait till he has the money to buy for his specific set up. Then it happened after he started buying JD only attachments he had problems with the tractor and after fighting with the dealers and JD to have it fixed he decided to sell his JD and go with Kioti because he had been so impressed with mine. He then complained that he had to sell all his JD only attachments and shop for SSQA for the Kioti.

For me it just doesn't make any sense to buy something so limited when the majority of the market uses the SSQA.

Yet I have had no problem finding attachments to fit my JDQA and the price is the same. Neither have my friends with CASE tractors found it difficult to purchase/acquire Euro Global QA attachments for his. And the CASE tractors are daily working tractors, not a small-property 'once a week' rig like mine. When I do work my tractor (especially during haying season = 8+hours for a week or more) the JDQA attached bale spears have never given me a problem, come loose or broken a pin. Solid attachment in my experience.

If the OP wants, he can get an SSQA adaptor to fit his JDQA for the odd speciality attachment he may want to rent (in his area).

Honestly though, just how many attachments does a person need for their FEL? A bucket (regular or 4in1), pallet forks or bale spikes (mine is a combination... swap the spikes for the forks) and perhaps a grapple.

 

[CADplans]

Honestly though, just how many attachments does a person need for their FEL?
A bucket (regular or 4in1), pallet forks or bale spikes (mine is a combination...
swap the spikes for the forks) and perhaps a grapple.

I had BIG thoughts about all the QA implements I would get when I retro'ed my loader,,

So far,, in about a decade,,, I have the bucket and forks.
I built a set of rock tines,,,, but, my tractor is a little too heavy for 1.50" round tines 40" long,,,
anyone need some steel pretzels??