Why the whine?

/ Why the whine? #1  

RayCo

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I'd say 6-8 weeks ago, there was a thread about HSTs and the topic of the whine was mentioned, as is often the case. Someone gave a nice, brief explanation of the internal design that causes HSTs to whine. I cannot find this post, and was wondering if anyone else has it or can recall such an explanation.

Thank you
 
/ Why the whine? #2  
I'd say 6-8 weeks ago, there was a thread about HSTs and the topic of the whine was mentioned, as is often the case. Someone gave a nice, brief explanation of the internal design that causes HSTs to whine. I cannot find this post, and was wondering if anyone else has it or can recall such an explanation.

Thank you

The transmission pump/torque converter operates at a very high rpm and the oil really moves at a high gallon per minute/foot per second speed through small piping and control valves. The cooling fan adds to the noise as well.
 
/ Why the whine? #4  
Sorry.. wrong whine. But just incase you get other whining... :laughing:
 
/ Why the whine? #5  
The transmission pump/torque converter operates at a very high rpm and the oil really moves at a high gallon per minute/foot per second speed through small piping and control valves. The cooling fan adds to the noise as well.

Which Kubota HST models have a torque converters?
 
/ Why the whine? #6  
Perhaps some good cheese to go with that whine will help :laughing:

My L3130 has some whine, more pronounced after it has been worked a bit when climbing hill.
 
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/ Why the whine? #7  
It's not unlike the noise you hear when running water. Just much higher pressure and viscosity. Very normal.
 
/ Why the whine? #9  
The transmission pump/torque converter operates at a very high rpm and the oil really moves at a high gallon per minute/foot per second speed through small piping and control valves. The cooling fan adds to the noise as well.

Loenz,

Your 20 yrs in the hyd repair field experience is showing again......:thumbdown:
 
/ Why the whine? #10  
All of them, torque converters are what make automatic gearboxes and HSTs possible :)

Kubota uses Piston Pump/Motor Combo Units.....The noise you hear is the oil running thru the piston rotating groups......the whine increases with pressure/velocity/torque......and/or hyd oil viscosity

Though it's a torque converter of sorts, it works on a different principle than your automatic transmission...Hydrostatic transmissions

The direction of flow and displacement is changed internally in the pump using a swashplate design (controlled by your for/rev pedals moving a lever on HST).....NOT from "small piping and control valves"....

All this is normal in Piston Pump Design.......:thumbsup:
 
/ Why the whine? #12  
wdchyd said:
Kubota uses Piston Pump/Motor Combo Units.....The noise you hear is the oil running thru the piston rotating groups......the whine increases with pressure/velocity/torque......and/or hyd oil viscosity...

That will learn me for taking my lecturers advice. Goes to show experience counts tenfold over book learning

Thanks for the clarification!
 
/ Why the whine? #13  
a hst inst like a torque converter. the only way there alike is the fact the both use low pressure hi flow hydraulics but the concepts are different.
 

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