Windows 10

   / Windows 10
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#61  
with the freebie date running out I just switched. Turned it on, went out to mow for several hours, it was mostly ready when I got back. All files there, mail ok,some fine tuning needed for sure, and will turn off some of their tracking features for sure. If I find anything off/corrupted will report, but so far so good. Need to put screensaver pic back on.
 
   / Windows 10 #62  
I really like Windows 10, I think it is the best OS they have put out since DOS 6.2.2

I use my computers for work but the home systems are mainly for video games and media. It performs very well if you have a fully compatible system. Some of my older units at home did not have fully compatible cards so I had to replace a few things. 7 machines total I had to replace 2 USB 3 cards and add a sound card as a really old MOBO's onboard sound was not supported by Windows 10.

Only a few days left for "free"

A video on disabling some Windows/MS Spying


 
   / Windows 10 #63  
As the most widely used operating system, Windows is also the most likely target for people that wish you harm. They can patch and patch and patch but sooner or later it's simply better to start fresh. That is Win10 in a nutshell. I really don't notice much difference from previous versions and after a single "incident" with a patch that ate up a big chunk of my monthly data allowance I have no problems with it.
 
   / Windows 10 #64  
I doubt that very many people that try out Linux Mint will go back to any version of Windows.

Advertised as the 3rd most widely used home operating system,
behind Microsoft Windows and Apple Mac OS,
Linux Mint is a superbly polished operating system.

I've been using it for about 10 years; the latest version is outstanding,
not to mention that it's free along with 1000's of apps.

Nearly all the things that you don't like about Windows are absent from Mint;
it just works, period.

If you try it, I would recommend the Mate desktop environment; it is
very similar to XP in looks and user interaction.
 
   / Windows 10 #65  
Well, I 'broke down' and finally installed Win10 on Monday. Initially, my local Com Tech in town advised against doing it due to the early download being (in his opinion) a massive test-bed using customers computers as the testing environment.

I employ "Advanced Tech Support", based in Florida, to remotely fix glitches and maintain my home system... they installed Win10 on my request, eliminating any of the embuggerances still inherent in the system. I've not experienced any problems since and some problems with the Win8.2 OS I had have been cleared up.

So far, so good.
 
   / Windows 10 #66  
I doubt that very many people that try out Linux Mint will go back to any version of Windows.

Advertised as the 3rd most widely used home operating system,
behind Microsoft Windows and Apple Mac OS,
Linux Mint is a superbly polished operating system.

I've been using it for about 10 years; the latest version is outstanding,
not to mention that it's free along with 1000's of apps.

Nearly all the things that you don't like about Windows are absent from Mint;
it just works, period.

If you try it, I would recommend the Mate desktop environment; it is
very similar to XP in looks and user interaction.

My issue with Linux distributions is lack of hardware support, shoddy drivers, lack of full ports of all the games I play on Linux and lack of versions of programs that I use. I have used Mint, I have used several distributions and many of them are flawless I have three running in the house right now for specific purposes, even those are dual boot and those purposes can run on Windows. Windows has always had it's issues, but until full support for everything I do comes to Linux I won't be using it for main stream use, free or not.

I like the idea of Linux, have no issues with it and enjoy playing around with it, again, just does not do everything I want. While it is cocky to say the bulk of the population is not able to function in Linux it is a reality to say that the bulk of the population is not willing to learn to use Linux. Even with all the highly polished GUIs there is still a steep learning curve for people.

If you have the time and inclination and it does what you want go for Linux, it is fantastic.
If you do not have the time and do not mind much the same limitations that Linux has, still. Try Macintosh products, they just work and are typically not plagued with the issues of Windows. There is a cost to that tho :)

For anything and everything there is Windows.

*Disclaimer; I may change my mind if game developers start using Vulcan more than they are using Direct X. I do not care what OS my work stuff is running as long as I can work. I do care what my entertainment systems are running :)
 
   / Windows 10 #67  
Good post...The easiest way to get a taste of Linux is via 'live cd/dvd/s'...Almost all Linux distributions are available for free download (if your burner software allows you to burn ISO files)...or get them by paying a small postage and handling fee (usually less than $5)...

These CD/DVD's allow you to experience Linux on just about any desktop or laptop...without in any way disturbing your current O/S, files etc...

You simply insert the CD/DVD and restart the computer...it will boot into Linux running solely on the RAM...it will not access your current hard drive or operating system in any way... when you are done...remove the disk, restart the system back to Windows...(like Linux was never there...)

Typically...when the system boots to a "live disk"...once it gets to the "desktop"...you will already be connected to the Internet...just open a browser and check it out...

Because it (a live disk version) is running in the expanded memory (RAM) it will run slower than normal...just be patient...

FWIW...When discussing Linux the word "distribution" basically means "flavor"...they are all very similar but because Linux is 'open source' anyone can make improvements, change things for particular tasks etc., etc...and then "distribute" their version of the operating system...different Linux distributions will come with different style desktops, software packages etc., etc...

Being able to use "live CD/DVD's" gives users the ease of looking at and test driving the plethora of distributions they may find interesting...on their own systems without any repercussions etc...!

If anyone wants more information PM me...or post a query...
 
   / Windows 10 #68  
Windows 10 home (the free one you're talking about) doesn't support remote controlling of a computer so I'm sticking with Windows 7. Windows 7 will be supported for about another 4 years and by then I will be wanting new hardware. Not worth it to upgrade now just to save a $100. I'll upgrade down the road on my own time frame.
 
   / Windows 10 #69  
For me personally, whether or not Windows 10 is any good or not is beside the point that 90% of the population simply doesn't use much less need more than WinXP or Win7. I was an IT tech back in the DOS days and continued through WinXP and NT 4.0. I remember OS's that worked on 3.5in floppy disks. Ok, sure, we are well beyond floppy disk days, but I've watched Windows go from a dozen 3.5in floppy disks to now over a gigabyte in disk space just for the OS alone. Sure, there are people who will take advantage of the newer features but I doubt the majority of users do. Windows 10 is Microsoft's most advanced data collection OS ever. Some security groups have documented over 100 outbound connections on a fresh install with nothing else loaded. That just bugs me.
 
   / Windows 10 #70  
I hear you... I still have my Win98 machine because of the programs I bought for it that are not forward compatible.

Now everytime I turn on my Win7 machine it wants to do the Win10 download...
 
   / Windows 10
  • Thread Starter
#71  
and if you use the free upgrade, please do NOT hit the Express button like I did before reading things here...
Use the Customize. I spent ten minutes going through all the setups and turning off a dozen undesired functions.
 
   / Windows 10 #72  
For me personally, whether or not Windows 10 is any good or not is beside the point that 90% of the population simply doesn't use much less need more than WinXP or Win7. I was an IT tech back in the DOS days and continued through WinXP and NT 4.0. I remember OS's that worked on 3.5in floppy disks. Ok, sure, we are well beyond floppy disk days, but I've watched Windows go from a dozen 3.5in floppy disks to now over a gigabyte in disk space just for the OS alone. Sure, there are people who will take advantage of the newer features but I doubt the majority of users do. Windows 10 is Microsoft's most advanced data collection OS ever. Some security groups have documented over 100 outbound connections on a fresh install with nothing else loaded. That just bugs me.

I was a computer geek from a young age. I remember when Windows 1.1 went live. A friend called me and asked it I wanted it, he mailed me the floppy, I think it was one floppy with one extra that had some other "stuff" on it. Yes, mailed using the US Postal Service. I opened it and installed it on my 286 computer with a massive 1 megabyte of system RAM. It got to a pretty screen and locked up. Called my buddy and asked WTH. He just said "isn't it pretty" maybe future versions will be useful :p

Anyways, 10 is worth the upgrade. It is faster than all previous versions, more efficient. Once you disable all the common modern day data collection and run your security software there is little to worry about. When they change these "free versions" such that I cannot take it anymore hopefully Linux support will be a 100% thing in the gaming industry.

Keep in mind that all of my experience with W10 has been with the Pro version on systems that are upgraded to new specs. Not are all full fledged gaming power houses but most are. I upgrade the main system frequently and pass hardware down to the rest of the PCs in the house.
 
   / Windows 10
  • Thread Starter
#73  
Life used to be so simple
We had Edit, we had Edlin
But simple did not give us today's amazing video performance.
Floppy disc drives couldn't spit out data fast enough.
Hard drives could, and I remember, while owning a home town Radio Shack for five years,
selling lots of ten meg external hard drives for $569
Ten meg; almost a uselessly small size now. One pic for your camera?

Times really have changed, and it's been fun to watch.
So much more performance for so much less money.
Computers are cheap now! My little Chrome notebook is inexpensive and gives me the radar weather while I'm downstairs vs
my main pc up in my office upstairs. I open the lid, within ten seconds it has grabbed my wifi and gone live. I find that amazing.
Ten seconds.
Those of us old enough thought our lives were passing by needlessly while inserting ten diskettes to get a simple program to run.
And oh I wish I had saved that one last 8 inch floppy I had on a peg on the wall in the computer room of my store. No son, that's not a frisbee...;)

Yes, i sold the Tandy 100's but I quickly found Acer and sold them alongside, and that was a great decision. Acer has been like Panasonic, never the top but always
pumping out good quality equipment. I rarely had to fix an Acer computer. Of course they were built like tanks back then. Just keep the dirt out of them and don't bang the circuit boards loose and they just ran and ran. Must have had good oem power supplies.

But then processor speed started to accelerate and all the old stuff was left sucking wind, soldiering on running your Quicken program, but not being able to run a modern game or a HD movie. So everyone bought new, or the smart ones upgraded internally, but many motherboards were limited.
Reminds me of cars today; we have amazingly powerful vehicles out there, most will never be on the autobahn, but all like to move out from the light or pass in a blur.
Just like our computers. Today we wait for nothing. Perhaps that is why we have more road rage on the road. Our computers today provide instant gratification.
No brrr brrr brrr brrrr :D

Now if I could just get rid of the noisy fans I've been plagued with on the last two computers. They need to quiet them down; mine is variable and whines and warbles, has since almost new. Fans can't be expensive and usually not hard to replace. Asus pc, before an HP.

I'm not sure I could tell if Windows could go any faster now, except perhaps on some videos. My internet is 80 down/8 up, which is plenty fast for me.
Suddenlink rep yesterday (changing out an underground cable line gone bad) told me they now offered 500 down in the larger city 30 miles to the West.
So with a fast computer, and fast internet, I'm just not sure what I actually see will change much. I don't play games on my pc, used to, but rather watch history shows on YouTube.

And I bet Microsoft would really like to collect my viewing history on YouTube, so when I switch to TBN, the ad on the page will be perfectly tailored to me.
For now, I am amused by the constant barrage of Orkin and other bug companies that are constantly popping up now that I once searched for local bug exterminators.
Orkin is tenacious; they must pay a lot of money for good positioning.
 
   / Windows 10 #74  
I am amazed at how many people don't care about all the spying or believe that they can shut it off.
 
   / Windows 10 #75  
I am amazed at how many people don't care about all the spying or believe that they can shut it off.
You could limit what data was mined by Microsoft but they are getting ready to make that tougher to do. I don't like the direction Microsoft is going. For the people that haven't updated to Windows 10 yet do some research before you do. I've linked to the latest story I've seen and it makes me wonder if they're going to make it where you can't turn off any of the data mining 'services'. Microsoft will now force you to use its favorite Windows 1 feature, whether you like it or not - Yahoo Finance
 
   / Windows 10 #76  
Is there a way to turn off all of the live tiles at once?

I have been doing it one at a time, when I see one updating.

They use my Data Allowance on the satellite. :thumbdown:

Any other ways to limit unnecessary data use?

I have noticed on Task Manager, that Google Chrome is using the network when I am not doing anything.

TIA
 
   / Windows 10 #77  
I was a computer geek from a young age. I remember when Windows 1.1 went live. A friend called me and asked it I wanted it, he mailed me the floppy, I think it was one floppy with one extra that had some other "stuff" on it. Yes, mailed using the US Postal Service. I opened it and installed it on my 286 computer with a massive 1 megabyte of system RAM. It got to a pretty screen and locked up. Called my buddy and asked WTH. He just said "isn't it pretty" maybe future versions will be useful :p

Anyways, 10 is worth the upgrade. It is faster than all previous versions, more efficient. Once you disable all the common modern day data collection and run your security software there is little to worry about. When they change these "free versions" such that I cannot take it anymore hopefully Linux support will be a 100% thing in the gaming industry.

Keep in mind that all of my experience with W10 has been with the Pro version on systems that are upgraded to new specs. Not are all full fledged gaming power houses but most are. I upgrade the main system frequently and pass hardware down to the rest of the PCs in the house.


Is there a way to truly lockout the snoop ware and make 10 look and operate like XP ?
 
   / Windows 10 #78  
My issue with Linux distributions is lack of hardware support, shoddy drivers, lack of full ports of all the games I play on Linux and lack of versions of programs that I use. I have used Mint, I have used several distributions and many of them are flawless I have three running in the house right now for specific purposes, even those are dual boot and those purposes can run on Windows. Windows has always had it's issues, but until full support for everything I do comes to Linux I won't be using it for main stream use, free or not.

I like the idea of Linux, have no issues with it and enjoy playing around with it, again, just does not do everything I want. While it is cocky to say the bulk of the population is not able to function in Linux it is a reality to say that the bulk of the population is not willing to learn to use Linux. Even with all the highly polished GUIs there is still a steep learning curve for people.

If you have the time and inclination and it does what you want go for Linux, it is fantastic.
If you do not have the time and do not mind much the same limitations that Linux has, still. Try Macintosh products, they just work and are typically not plagued with the issues of Windows. There is a cost to that tho :)

For anything and everything there is Windows.

*Disclaimer; I may change my mind if game developers start using Vulcan more than they are using Direct X. I do not care what OS my work stuff is running as long as I can work. I do care what my entertainment systems are running :)

Is there not entire nations and Governemts that Barely use MS and utilize Linux etc instead ?
 
   / Windows 10 #80  
Is there a way to truly lockout the snoop ware and make 10 look and operate like XP ?

I use freeware called Shutup10 but there are many others available. It will block most of the snooping. However, it has been proven that even when all documented options are turned off, data is still being sent to Microsoft. They refuse to disclose what the data is.
 

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