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   / Windows 11 #131  
Thread hijack -
Man that takes me back. Our Army research lab, of about 300 people, was all DEC- a couple of PDP-11 (70?)
I worked with DEC PDPs (mostly 8's & 11s) in the early-mid 70s. ISTR that with the expanded memory option the 8's could access a whopping 28k (yes, k) of RAM. No bloatware in those days!!
These were interfaced with drum memory units...about the size of a washing machine and the large-capacity unit held an amazing 8M. At the time we figured no one would ever fill that up. :ROFLMAO:
How things have changed.
 
   / Windows 11 #132  
Microsoft, contrary to popular belief, is not, and has never been, a direct creator of secure OS software. They have never... repeat, never, created an operating system in house. They are admitting this with the Win11 roll out. They are doing what they have always done, which is to out source security to some other party. The requirements of Win 11 are a direct reflection of this. They want TPM 2 - defined by TCG, Trusted Computing Group, , and UFEI, Unified Extensible Firmware Interface boot- which Intel created. Neither of these were invented by Microsoft. Yet Microsoft needs these cause, they have no clue of the securty of their own operating system that will be based on Remote Access -your "Account," for the all important call home, and record, and sell, all you have done with out some third party back door, hack, directly attributiable to MS. Thus, you have to update your machine, at a hardware level in some way, to run their newest offering.
BSD UNIX OSX Apple and Linux have much stronger kernels of when an OS can be inserted with a nasty. These will notify you, and at least at Admin Level, ask of an authority to do so. You would have to be rather stupid to allow, say, a crypto-ransom attack, on a Linux or an Apple System. It can't do that as a back door.

Yet, you can run most MS soft using WINE. Which is not an emulator.

React-OS is a dead project. Simply because its not only attempting to be 100% code complient with Microsoft, that also means they would have to fix all the issues of the old code of the NT Kernal. This would be like rewriting the whole thing, when it would be much easier to put a Windows like shell on top of an already secure core.
Linux has made huge jumps in the ease of generic open drivers and such, in the last few years.
If you buy something that is MS specific, its your fault buying into the monopoly.


In 2024, all of our personal machines, will be running some form of Linux. Wife HAS to USE Apple OSX for professional work right now as that is the issued computer platform that the University Owns... they own her computer. But that is changing also. And there are pains when when they roll out a 64 bit only upgrade, with out sending out the memo that your programs might just have 32 bit old stuff, as supporting programs. Woops?

For me Win 7 Pro goes directly to the Zorin Linux Distro, even if I have to buy into the Pro version with support. And if a device doesn't support it, I'll get one that does.

There is really nothing that Libra or Open Office can't do that only MS software suits can do. I will admit that the open source community messed up on Power Point and didn't do a good clone.

And for some reason we have all forgotten RTF formats, that any one can read with picts and stuff.

WE CONTROL the platforms with our buying decisions. Its not the other way around.

And, I would not have any faith in any thing PC World had to say about anything. :)
 
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   / Windows 11 #133  
Can you run different browsers with ease?

One of the things I see being talked about is that W11 will be able to run Android apps.
I use Firefox and Chrome all day. I tend to only use MS browser for MS sites. So far, I've not run into any issues that I wasn't running into before LOL. Remember when they said web apps would allow us to be system agnostic as they would all run in any browser? :D Well I still have apps that prefer to run in one or the other and some that wont run at all in anything but whatever browser they were made for. But that's not a Windows 11 thing, it's just bad app development.

I'll have to look into Android app compatibility. That might be interesting as I do use Android mobile and I'm sitting here typing this on my Chromebook :p
 
   / Windows 11 #134  
Windows 11?? Hope the roll out is not another Windows 8 scenario!!!

Used windows for business use to run AutoCad and Revit sofware (now retired).
For personal use I run Linux and Apple/Mac for security reasons.
 
   / Windows 11 #135  
I got it now on one of my computers, no problems to report. Cad program works fine, my ancient 2008 quickbooks pro works fine, pdf reader works fine, it all works fine with win11.
 
   / Windows 11 #137  
I upgraded from W7 to W10 for free a fee months ago and the GUI is another puzzle as always. I now keep Task Manager, Control Panel. and File Explorer open on the task bar because otherwise it's too much work to find them. If I wantd to give up wordss for symbols I'd try to learn Chinese.
 
   / Windows 11 #138  
I upgraded from W7 to W10 for free a fee months ago and the GUI is another puzzle as always. I now keep Task Manager, Control Panel. and File Explorer open on the task bar because otherwise it's too much work to find them. If I wantd to give up wordss for symbols I'd try to learn Chinese.
Was there anything there about Windows 11?
 
   / Windows 11 #139  
Don't know if 11 was even rumored when I stumbled onto the 'upgrade'. (to 10 from 7/8 only vs from Vista or XP)

MS promises a better GUI with 11 but IMO changes are always more intimidating than user friendly.
 
   / Windows 11 #140  
Microsoft, contrary to popular belief, is not, and has never been, a direct creator of secure OS software. They have never... repeat, never, created an operating system in house. They are admitting this with the Win11 roll out. They are doing what they have always done, which is to out source security to some other party. The requirements of Win 11 are a direct reflection of this. They want TPM 2 - defined by TCG, Trusted Computing Group, , and UFEI, Unified Extensible Firmware Interface boot- which Intel created. Neither of these were invented by Microsoft. Yet Microsoft needs these cause, they have no clue of the securty of their own operating system that will be based on Remote Access -your "Account," for the all important call home, and record, and sell, all you have done with out some third party back door, hack, directly attributiable to MS. Thus, you have to update your machine, at a hardware level in some way, to run their newest offering.

Oh my. I'll just say that while there are bits of truth sprinkled here and there, conceptually you've been grossly misinformed. But I know this is a religious debate within the IT crowd so don't mind me.

In 2024, all of our personal machines, will be running some form of Linux.

That's awesome, but people have been running out the Linux Defense for decades yet here we are. If Linux works for you then great, you should definitely use it, but for anyone thinking it's a viable alternative for the mainstream masses that's just crazy talk (not aimed at you, just others in general). Soon advances in computing will make much of the talk of desktop OSs largely irrelevant anyway.

And, I would not have any faith in any thing PC World had to say about anything. :)
Won't argue that one.
 
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