YT235 down again!

[TnAndy]

If the dealership were to fail for any reason what am i left with?

You'd be in the same boat I am.

Bought mine from a local dealer that has been in town for 40-50 years selling Ford tractors, then New Holland and took on the Yanmar line for 3-4 years (the period which I bought mine), and then dropped it. The dealer is still there if you want a New Holland, or Case (they picked that line up a few years back when the local Case dealer went out), but no longer service Yanmar.

I get my parts now from a dealer 1 1/2 hours away. Fortunately, I only had to go there once to set up an account, now I can call, order the part ( I have a parts manual for my tractor....parts guy at the local dealer I bought the tractor burned me a copy on a thumb drive), and have it drop shipped to the house.

Funny thing...this is the 2nd time this has happened to me (takes me a while to learn).

1985 I bought a Yanmar 22hp model 220D that was my very first tractor from a local dealer, only have Yanmar stop selling tractors under their own brand (they cut that deal with John Deere to make their compact tractors thru the 90's) and I really had a hard time finding parts then. (Internet was just getting cranking) It was one of the things that influenced me to sell that fine tractor in 1998 and buy a bigger NH....a 33hp model 1925 with front loader.

The BEST tractor in the world is just a boat anchor if you can't get a critical part for it when you need it.

I'm to the age of life where there is not likely another tractor in my future, so I'll keep my current LX410, maintain/repair as needed, until it's somebody's inheritance, but IF I were to buy again, Yanmar wouldn't fool me into another one.....simply because it doesn't appear their heart is really in maintaining lasting relationships with their dealers or customers. Just my observation, ya'll's mileage may vary.

 

[rScotty]

rScotty, agree with your post.

My biggest concern with the Yanmar is dealership or dealerships. The only dealer that is any closer to me I do not think has a true tractor or diesel mechanic. They have only been a tractor dealer for at most 1 1/2 years. That is not much of track record. That is why the post here on Yanmar rep concerns me. If the dealership were to fail for any reason what am i left with?

However, even though my wife does not like the Yanmar...gold rims need to be painted black being one. lol Not sure she cares for the shade of red they have either. Does not match our ruby red pickup, again, lol. Cab is not as nice as JD. She will trust my judgement after all I chose her many years ago. I am going to have one more conversation with the dealer. I owe them that. Maybe they can handle my concerns or not but they deserve that.

Seems fair....in fact, more than fair. I would be real clear about laying out your concerns to that dealer. You may be doing him a favor.

You could even tell him it's pretty obvious he doesn't have much tractor experience and ask how he expects to handle a major problem if one should happen?

With today's manufacturing quality control, mechanical problems are rare now, but we are beginning to hear about computer problems. In fact I just had to deal with an engine controller computer on the JD310 myself. But suppose your tractor does have something like that.... What does he plan to do? Does it sound reasonable? How close is his manufacturing support? Can he give you an example? Has he had experience needing factory backup?

On the Influence of Colors & Retirement....
Frankly I am not sure that I like most of the new colors myself. In almost everything they make, those Japanese color tints are glaring to my Western eyes, and it does make a difference. Before we bought the Kubota back in I 2007 I would only look at Deeres, and a large part of the reason was the color. I like that old green color.

After all these years with the Kubota M59 - and knowing how well it works - I not ashamed to say I almost didn't get it because of the color.
It's finally fading to an more yellow orange, and much easier on the eyes. Plus it's a trusted old friend now. I'm an old guy and that was & still is our "retirement" tractor. Nice to know we made the right choice. Although the color kept it from being love at first sight, the moment I sat in it and ran it around I knew. For the first ten years I was glad it didn't have a cab, but since then I've sometimes wished it did.

Whichever way you go, I wish you enjoyment with the decision.
rScotty

 

[kthompson]

I am sorry for hijacking this thread on my looking for tractor but decision has been made. It will be a Kubota L6060 with cab and fel.

Yesterday afternoon talked with the local Yanmar dealer for about an hour on my concerns. He agreed the next nearest dealership was at least two hours away. Said he expected them to be adding more in the near future. As to their experience they have sold several and have had little issues. One with fuel issue due to bad diesel fuel. One with a leak. Think that was it. They have no other experience on the machines. Think three of them have attended Yanmars school and they have very good support think access to Yanmar mechanics. While I really like the tractor just not comfortable with the dealer situation. The fact Yanmar pulled out few years back leaving dealers and owners without support.

 

[Mauser12]

I haven't posted here for a few days to give Yanmar the chance to make the situation right. A Yanmar rep did look at the tractor, ran it and could not find the issue. He sent it home. Fifteen operating hours later the dip stick was over full. The difference seemed to be I was using all of the functions on the tractor and the rep was running it sitting still. The dealer took it and reproduced the problem under working conditions. It was also using fuel like a freight train. That would be the fifith time the oil in the pan has been diluted. The dealer contacted Yanmar and they have agreed to replace the engine. It has supposidly been shipped and should arrive at the dealer this next week. I am still kind of holding my breath to see if it actually arrives, simply because of the number of months it took to get to this point. So, I have a couple of things I would like to express. First, a very large thank you to those of you on this forum that contacted Yanmar on my behalf. I had no idea that individuals would go that far out of their way to help. Thank you also to those of you that gave your advice and support through the posts. I bounced seveal of the comments made here off the dealer. If any of you live in Washington or Oregon, I would like to point to Brim tractor, (at least the Chehalis, Washington location) as a dealer that understands customer service and simply goes far out of their way to try and solve problems. As frustrating as this situation has been, these three things have restored my faith that people really do understand what is right.

 

[kthompson]

Masuer12 glad it seems to be on the right tract.

 

[4get gto]

Glad things got rolling for you.
No one wants to go thru this stuff. Certainty doesn't help the manufacturers as bad news always travels faster than good.

 

[tier4]

so just wondering what is happening with you tractor we have not heard anything in a couple weeks

 

[ThirtyOne]

Sorry to bump an old thread but am also curious to see how it all panned out in the end. Any update?

 

[Mauser12]

Sorry to bump an old thread but am also curious to see how it all panned out in the end. Any update?

I will see if I can remember everything. Yanmar replaced the injectors the high pressure pump and the hydraulic pump seals and I still had the problem. After weeks of discussion and tractor down time they did replace the engine. In addition to those issues, it has been in the shop I believe four times for hydraulic issues,( burst lines. bad valve, etc.) The last time the draft control was frozen and I could not control the three point rate and the loader would not stay up. An odd idea that Yanmar had to fix the loader problem was to send a new bucket. The only thing on the dash that seems to be accurate is the Tach. The tractor runs out of fuel when the gauge reads about 1/2 a tank. I have gotten into the habit of fueling it each time I use it. It still takes about three regen cycles before the dash control recognizes it. When the light works, it runs the full cycle.

At this writing the tractor seems to be working, with a few quirks. I will say this about all of the issues. Brim Tractor in Chehalis, Washington has really stepped up to the plate. What Yanmar would not address, Brim did without cost to me. They spent untold hours helping me get things as right as possible. They do sell another brand of tractor and that will be my next purchase. I understand that all things mechanical will break. I do not understand being stonewalled by corporate over every issue. It would take a week or ten days for corporate to decide an the issue and sometimes several more weeks for the parts to arrive. I honestly believe it would have been cheaper for corporate to replace the tractor when all of this started. They refused to do that.

 

[ThirtyOne]

Thanks for getting back. Sounds like an absolute nightmare. Really too bad, as Yanmar has such a good reputation for reliability with their engines. You would assume that they would've sorted this out quickly. Best of luck with it.

 

[Williy]

I never broke anything on the loader of my YT235C
and I have had the bucket so full of rocks that the
ass end would leave the ground when I hit a small
bump and that's a weird feeling! All in all I really
enjoy using the YT235C especially since the temps
have been 107, 105 etc cool as a cucumber is the
cab with the a/c and no DUST!

willy

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

I never broke anything on the loader of my YT235C
and I have had the bucket so full of rocks that the
ass end would leave the ground when I hit a small
bump and that's a weird feeling! All in all I really
enjoy using the YT235C especially since the temps
have been 107, 105 etc cool as a cucumber is the
cab with the a/c and no DUST!

willy

I wouldn't keep loading the bucket that much without ballast on the back end.... way too much load on the front axle assembly

 

[Williy]

I only did it once, didn't think the big rocks were
that heavy. I travel very slow when the bucket is
loaded like that. In fact I don't go very fast any
time. No need to be in a rush.

Do you get any parts from K & S Tractor sales
in Lubbock, TX! That's were I purchased my
tractor from.

willy

 

[sugarloafguy]

Hey guys,

I so hate to hear stories like this. Brand new machine and they are thinking about doing the bottom end? I am not sure Yanmar is going to make it this time around without Deere. So its 8 PM on a holiday weekend and I just got back from the funeral home. It is nice to know that my dealer delivers the same service we do in the practice meaning if I call them they send a diesel mechanic to my house tonight. Not sure New Holland is the be all end all but parts are generally next day and whenever I call them, even if it's 3 AM (24/7/365) they are always there. Makes for a happy funeral director. Maybe Yanmar could learn something about quality and service.

Brian

 

[walnutman]

Just bought a brand new YT359c.
This thread doesn't even phase me.

 

[freightboy]

Just bought a brand new YT359c.
This thread doesn't even phase me.

Burn the right fuel, run the right oil, and work the tractor. Do that along with performing scheduled regenerations (50, 150, and every 100 hours after that) is done, the chance of problems with regeneration should be minimal.

 

[walnutman]

Burn the right fuel, run the right oil, and work the tractor. Do that along with performing scheduled regenerations (50, 150, and every 100 hours after that) is done, the chance of problems with regeneration should be minimal.

Doesn't it regen automatically?

 

[freightboy]

Doesn't it regen automatically?

Doesn't it regen automatically?

Yanmar Tier IV tractors constantly regenerate. There are 5 stages of regeneration. There are three that the operator may see. If actions are performed correctly and there are no equipment failures, the reset regeneration should be the only one an operator sees. This requires the operator to push the initiate regeneration button for 3-5 seconds until regeneration begins and then continue to work. For a reset regeneration the icon on the meter and the initiate button will blink every 2 seconds along with an audible alarm. This should last for 20-30 minutes.

If the operator fails to perform this the next regeneration is a stationary, or parked regeneration. This is accompanied with the same 2 lights and alarm as above, and a caution lamp is added as well. The blink pattern will change to 1 second and it will be accompanied by an error code that reads 00 00087 16. Also, this cycle will immediately limit power by a little, and it might not be noticeable. After 2 hours it will further reduce power, as a friendly reminder to perform this regeneration. For this the operator must park the tractor in a well ventilated area. Because it is stationary and the exhaust can be a little over 1300 degrees Fahrenheit, you want to make sure you are in is free of flammable items (grass, gas, papers...). This cycle should also take about 20-30 minutes.

If ten hours pass and the operator fails to perform the stationary/parked regeneration, the tractor will go into limp mode and only a dealer will be able to reset it. The diagnostic tool is required to perform a recovery regeneration.

Once again, it isn't that bad, there are plenty of steps to the operator can perform to prevent the tractor from going to the extreme of recovery regeneration. The main ones are fuel, oil, no long periods of idle, and working the tractor.

With your YT 359, on two of the meter screens there are load bars. Try to load it up. If you aren't familiar with the different screens, just turn the key on and press the display buttons to cycle between them.

 

[walnutman]

Thank you. I asked the dealer now much they would charge to delete it. He said wait till I'm out of warranty..... 10 years lol

 

[freightboy]

Thank you. I asked the dealer now much they would charge to delete it. He said wait till I'm out of warranty..... 10 years lol

Tractors aren't like cars. Deleting the emissions system could be catastrophic and there aren't enough made to research deleting them.