Bx1860 vx B2320 - Contrast/Compare

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Snow Plowing On The B2320

I've had time now to plow a few times with the B and wished to add a few more comments to my rather lengthy review, in hopes of helping anyone considering either the BX or B in the 20 series.

Since the step up into the B's operator platform is taller, it is a stretch, but with heavy winter boots and thick clothing, it is an even harder task. Might want to look into a step.

There were wheel weights on my BX, which in retro-spect, made a huge difference in plowing snow. I find the traction less than ideal on the 20 series B and really wish I had located some wheel weights for it. I am getting by, but the difference is amazing without them. Loading the tires would provide a similar thing, but am still debating, in my mind, the effects on the lawn of loaded tires. We shall see what the future brings.

While I do like the position of the joystick at the hip, it is easy to bump inadvertently when turning around to see what's happening in the rear. I know of no cure except awareness.

I have yet to fully switch between forward/reverse on the pedals as quickly as I did on the BX. The spacing seems farther apart on the B2320, but I will adjust, I am sure.

What is enjoyable is the low engine noise. The B2320's D1005 engine produces its power at a lower RPM and this is greatly appreciated. The hydro is almost silent in comparison to the BX as well. Wonderful.

The B2320. It's a keeper.





Sounds like you found the right fit!! If you are still debating on loaded tires, look at it this way- my fathers MF1250 is simalar sized to the B series, just a tad bigger and he has loaded rear turfs. No issues mowing lawn with 7ft RFM. lawn doesnt seem bumpy from added weight. If you stil not sure, why not get a gemplers connector and fill with water as a test. If you are happy with it, just drain and fill with right stuff. Otherwise you will need to break bead on tire to drain completely.
 
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Sounds like you found the right fit!! If you are still debating on loaded tires, look at it this way- my fathers MF1250 is simalar sized to the B series, just a tad bigger and he has loaded rear turfs. No issues mowing lawn with 7ft RFM. lawn doesnt seem bumpy from added weight. If you stil not sure, why not get a gemplers connector and fill with water as a test. If you are happy with it, just drain and fill with right stuff. Otherwise you will need to break bead on tire to drain completely.

Thanks to BPfick and others reviews, I too, traded from a BX to a B2320. I have the tires loaded and it has no trouble in the snow although I suspect the ride is a tad bit rougher. My dealer said it adds about 300lbs to load the tires if you were wondering. It's funny, but I find the same things you do almost exactly. The BX you could mount from either side, but the B is best done on the left to avoid the joystick and although it's getting better, the hydro pedals do cause me to think more. It's snowing now so I hope I get more "testing" but it seems a 6' RB is in order vs my 5' . I do the 1/2 mile road in lighter snows and it would help push the banks back without having to drive in them as well. Happy holidays!
 
   / Bx1860 vx B2320 - Contrast/Compare
  • Thread Starter
#53  
The physical size of the B2320, is just not THAT much bigger than the BX series, especially the BX2360 or BX2660, the latter even shares the same engine, although rated at a much different RPM. There may be some injector differences as well, but that is beyond my paygrade to discuss.

One thing to consider is the price difference is only a few hundred dollars. On "build my Kubota", the difference shown is something like $500 is all. For that, you get a heavier lift FEL, 3 speed ranges, larger/quieter HST, much larger frame, wheels/tires, 3 pt, and some other things.

It isn't the money that separates the BX2660 and B2320.

Just really wish the B's had the BX's 12v power outlet. Now, that was cool and I miss it.
 
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  • Thread Starter
#55  
Can I assume that the engine in both is the same , just revs at the
mid 2 thou in the B ? This wouldn't make much difference to the torque ?


I don't know. I am sure Kubota has tweaked the fuel delivery, valves, timing and other engine features over the years in the D1005's various incarnations. When Kubota uses a basic engine as they have over the years, it has appeared in various models as anywhere from 19 horsepower, in years past, to 26 horsepower in the current BX2660. It is sold as 23 HP in the current B series.

Merely rating it at a higher or lower RPM to achieve a momentary HP sticker? I seriously doubt the end user could tell the difference between a 19 hp rated version, a 22 hp rated version, a 23 hp rated version or a 26 hp rated version of the basic D1005.

Much of this is merely marketing, to be sure.
 
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Snow Plowing On The B2320



I've had time now to plow a few times with the B and wished to add a few more comments to my rather lengthy review, in hopes of helping anyone considering either the BX or B in the 20 series.​



Since the step up into the B's operator platform is taller, it is a stretch, but with heavy winter boots and thick clothing, it is an even harder task. Might want to look into a step.​



There were wheel weights on my BX, which in retro-spect, made a huge difference in plowing snow. I find the traction less than ideal on the 20 series B and really wish I had located some wheel weights for it. I am getting by, but the difference is amazing without them. Loading the tires would provide a similar thing, but am still debating, in my mind, the effects on the lawn of loaded tires. We shall see what the future brings.​



While I do like the position of the joystick at the hip, it is easy to bump inadvertently when turning around to see what's happening in the rear. I know of no cure except awareness.



I have yet to fully switch between forward/reverse on the pedals as quickly as I did on the BX. The spacing seems farther apart on the B2320, but I will adjust, I am sure.​



What is enjoyable is the low engine noise. The B2320's D1005 engine produces its power at a lower RPM and this is greatly appreciated. The hydro is almost silent in comparison to the BX as well. Wonderful.​



The B2320. It's a keeper.​

I've never shortened mine, yet, but I do snag my pant leg on it or just don't get on or off on the "stick" side.
Several months ago there was a thread where many were cutting the length of the lever with favorable results.
 
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  • Thread Starter
#57  
Decision Made: I Will Be Adding Weight
Time for an update, as promised. Like most folks, we've experienced a fairly tough winter this year. I really, really miss the front, full hydraulic blade from the BX, but between the FEL and the rear blade, I've been getting it done.

What is NOT "getting it done" for me is the relatively high torque to weight ration of the B2320. I know you folks who bought the 26 or the 29 might be asking, "What?", but hear me out.

As I have stated throughout this review, the D1005 is incredibly powerful, and coupled with the larger wheels and tires of the B2320, it is over powering the relatively light weight of the tractor. The traction in the snow has been quite disappointing. When in the snow, I had wheel weights on the BX1860 and frankly, traction was pretty fair.

I've not been able to locate wheel weights for the B2320. If I do not find some soon, I'm going to fill the rear tires. I delayed doing so when I got the tractor, as I wanted to judge its performance fairly. I have come to the conclusion that it is inevitable. This tractor simply needs more weight to make better use of its attributes. So, there it is.

Those who did opt for even more horsepower, I couldn't imagine being able to apply that power with substantial increasing the weight of the tractor.
 
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..... the D1005 is incredibly powerful.......

We have become a bit power-hungry in this game . I must say that
I thought the BX2360 engine might not be enough , since even the GR2100
has 21hp . Was I wrong ! I've no complaints in the MMM performance
area , and traction always goes before power is inadequate.
 
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In most slow speed machinery, traction is the holy grail, and tractors are no exception. The few times that I've stalled the 3400 have been pushing a bucket full of snow with ice chains on the back.

Sean
 
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In most slow speed machinery, traction is the holy grail, and tractors are no exception.

Sean

I couldn't have said it better then you can. :thumbsup:
 

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