M59 Discussion Thread

   / M59 Discussion Thread #311  
Has the M59 been changed to Tier 4 emissions for this year like the rest of Kubota's lineup?

Have they bumped up the power a bit? They used to advertise it as 45 pto hp from what I remember, but it's now listed at 50 PTO hp on their website.

I dunno the one I have is a 2008 and I have no way of measuring the power. It's beefy though.
 
   / M59 Discussion Thread #312  
OK, 30 hour review of my new to me M59.

I bought it with 265ish hours on it, paid $42K + gas from Michigan, it was about $45K all told. The owner drove it out here, really nice guy.

I own a B21 that I've put 300 hours on; used to own a B7100 that I put maybe a 100 hours on before I sold it (stupid, stupid, never sell a tractor). That's all the tractor experience I have, under 500 hours.

The first thing I'll say about the M59 is that it is not that big. I was really worried it would be too big for my 15 acres and after getting a bunch of dirt delivered and moving it around, I could easily use a bigger tractor. With the M59's big bucket you have to be careful to get an even load, you get the bucket unevenly loaded and lift it, the tractor will start to tip over. That isn't the case w/ the B21 and probably is due to the larger bucket relative to tractor size. That said, I agree with everyone else, that big bucket is nice. Moves a lot of dirt.

I bought a scraper blade so I've pulled the backhoe off. Twice so far, once just to see how hard it is (super easy, easier and faster than the B21). Putting the 3 point stuff on is a pain though, it takes about 20 minutes to do the swap. The backhoe is easy, the 3 point stuff is not designed for speed, you need tools. Shrug. Could be easier but it's not bad.

I haven't bought hydraulic rams for the 3 point top&tilt yet and I can tell you that not having them sucks big time. So no review on the OEM 3 pt controls, have to come back on that.

The 3 pt position control sort of sucks. The B21's is easier to use. While I'm not an experienced operator, I have used the box scraper on the B21 to build some "roads" on the property. You very quickly learn that when the tractor nose goes down the box has to go down; nose up, box up. So on uneven ground your hand lives on the control and you are constantly making adjustments. If the control works right this is pretty easy. On the B21 there is a handle (like a suitcase handle only fixed in position) right next to the position control. And the position control lever is pretty long so you can move it with just a thumb and a finger. So what I did on the B21 was put my bottom 3 fingers on the fixed handle and my thumb and forefinger on the control. It was easy to make fairly small adjustments.

On the M59, the control is much stiffer (maybe it needs lube? Anyone know?) and there isn't a good place to rest your hand. So small adjustments are a lot harder, it's unpleasant to use. My plan is to figure out where I usually have the lever and make a drop on extender that reaches close to something I can rest my hand on. Anyone had the same issue and tried the same idea (or have a better one?).

If I remember correctly, the 4WD lever is up for engaged on one tractor and down for the other. Annoying because my 51 year old eyes are shot and the symbols they use suck. Fix: a sharpy and an arrow pointing at 4WD. Both tractors go in and out of 4WD with the same effort/technique we all know.

Speed control. The good: the on the column high/low is awesome. Auto throttle is nice (though it took me a while to learn to use the actual throttle when I need flow for the loader). The bad: the L/M/H shifter is a pain to move, the B21 is much much easier/smoother. Dunno, it's annoying but I've gotten used to it.

Front loader. Man, do I love the loader. Love the size, the power, the skid steer compat. I have a grapple and pallet forks. Once we greased all the parts on and off is super fast and pleasant. Really nice.

Backhoe. Had to bury a neighbor's dead lama. Rock hard dried out soil was no problem (once I learned the trick of raking it loose). Backhoe has tons of power.

Seat. Gotta mention the seat. It's nice, better than the B21 by far. It is tilted forward a bit, I haven't found a way to correct that, is there one?

I think that's it, the summary is: nice tractor, like the size, thought it might be too big but it's not. I could go one size bigger and still be fine. Has some things better than the B21, some things worse, working through those. I'm keeping both tractors (not gonna make the mistake of selling the smaller one again, still kicking myself over that).
 
   / M59 Discussion Thread #313  
Towed mine with deck over 14k from Florida to ct with duramax 2500
 
   / M59 Discussion Thread #314  
Towed mine with deck over 14k from Florida to ct with duramax 2500
:welcome: to TractorByNet! :thumbsup:

Pictures, we need pictures! :D

Were you moving or just like to haul tractors?
 
   / M59 Discussion Thread #315  
On the M59, the control is much stiffer (maybe it needs lube? Anyone know?) and there isn't a good place to rest your hand. So small adjustments are a lot harder, it's unpleasant to use. My plan is to figure out where I usually have the lever and make a drop on extender that reaches close to something I can rest my hand on. Anyone had the same issue and tried the same idea (or have a better one?).

Seat. Gotta mention the seat. It's nice, better than the B21 by far. It is tilted forward a bit, I haven't found a way to correct that, is there one?

I just got the Kubota kit for the rear auxiliary hydraulics. Pretty expensive (2.3K) but high quality and should save quite a bit of time over having to fabricate mounts and hunt down parts. I will try to post something later on how the install goes. Looks pretty straightforward. It is plumbed in at the back, where the power beyond from the loader feeds the rear hydraulics (3pt and backhoe).

The M59 does shift stiff, however it loosens up some after a while. It helps to nudge the pedal a bit when shifting, although I find that I don't need to do that so much any longer with mine (now at about 450 hours).

I think the seat is tipped forward on purpose, to make it easier to operate the controls. It bothered me at first, but I don't even notice it any longer.
 
   / M59 Discussion Thread #316  
Bought it there and hauled it back, spend a few months down south during winter
 

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   / M59 Discussion Thread #317  
Towed mine with deck over 14k from Florida to ct with duramax 2500

I haul mine back and forth between New Mexico and Colorado twice a year - tractor is up on the ranch, used mainly for construction currently, during the summer season. It is about 700 miles each way, and includes some serious mountain passes (I have even taken it over Slumgullion twice; that is up to 9% grade or so!). This is with a Dodge Ram 2500 with some mods, towing a 14K PJ bumper pull trailer. I think I have an old picture in my account, will try to attach below.
 

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   / M59 Discussion Thread #318  
Bought it there and hauled it back, spend a few months down south during winter

Can you give some details on your trailer? It looks really nice.

TbarD,
I think I've said this before, but that is a beautiful picture, really nice setup!
(aside from the power lines) :D


What size trailer are most of you guys with M59's using? Length/weight rating.
 
   / M59 Discussion Thread #319  
TbarD,
I think I've said this before, but that is a beautiful picture, really nice setup!
(aside from the power lines) :D

What size trailer are most of you guys with M59's using? Length/weight rating.

I wouldn't go with anything less than a 14K, two 7K axles with brakes on both axles.
Mine is 22' and this works fine, although I might as well have gone with 24'. The
bumper pull is harder to load and hook up, but saves some weight and leaves the truck
bed free for storage. For shorter trips a gooseneck would be more convenient.
I am thinking of getting a 16' GN dump trailer for hauling gravel etc., and this would
probably also work to haul the M59, although with the rear gates open and the loader
up on the GN. Another thing: these low profile trailers are 83" wide but the M59 loader
bucket is 84" or a bit more - if the trailer has rails installed, it has to sit up on the rails.

(The power lines are annoying all right, but that is the barn site at the edge of the
meadow where the picture is taken. Further back up the mountain, the power lines
are history. :) )
 
   / M59 Discussion Thread #320  
Hi TBarD

You might want to try that goose neck dumper with the M59 in it before you buy it. I currently haul my L45 in a 14' dumper bumper pull and I have found that it is hard to get enough weight on the tongue with the loader at the front. I prefer to back the L45 in as the backhoe hanging over the front gives me plenty of weight on the tongue. I then drop the front bucket and bungee the two barn doors to keep them from swinging as I head down the road. I'm not sure how weight distribution works with a goose neck trailer but I think it would be awkward to put the hoe weight on the gooseneck frame.

I am probably going to purchase a new 16' tri axle dumper in the spring because I am finding that with the foamed tires, the Laurin cab and the attachments I have like to bring (extra backhoe buckets, pallet forks) that I can get the 14k trailer weight okay but I have almost a thousand pounds too much weight on the rear axle of my srw Super Duty.

I have been shopping for a new trailer and at this point my favourite is the Load Trail. They offer a 16' deck over dump with a front that is low enough you can back the backhoe over it. In addition they are the only ones I have found that offer a three way tailgate. You have barn doors, flip up from the bottom for spreading material and flip down from the top. This last option will be good for me because I will but a couple of turnbuckles there to hold the gate flipped down from the top and my forks and the 4-in-1 bucket chained to them can overhang the tailgate.

I can tell you from experience that with an L45 you can only put about eight or nine buckets of material in a 14' 14,000 pound dumper and still have it dump. Given that large front bucket on the M59 I think you will definitely be happier with the amount of material you can move with a tri axle versus a dual axle dump trailer.

I love the few photos you have posted of your Colorado property too.

Regards,

Lauren
 

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