3/4 ton mpg empty?

[C4Ranch]

I haven't ruled out diesel but I was kinda interested in what 3/4 ton gasser milage folks were getting.

I've seen diesel as much as 90 cents more than gas per gal (~30%).

 

[dakotagun]

I have an F250 SD 2009 with a 6.8 v10 gasser. I get maybe 13.5 at best hwy empty, with a topper. Push it to 73, mileage goes down to 12. I had a 5er I would pull occasionally, and run an 8' Boss plow on my road/driveway in winter so didn't feel I needed a diesel.

 

[setxjd]

" Newer" is the key word here. All the latest have DEF and all kinds of garbage emissions systems robbing mileage. I had an 05 Dodge 2500 cummins before social security bankrupted me. LOL. Mine was 2 wd, i had a bully dog programmer. Most driving was highway, 100 mile round trip to work. I ran the **** out of it for 250,000 miles, empty at 70 mpg averaged 20-21 mpg. And yet regularly pulled 8-10k pounds and got 12-15 mpg. Point is, youre not gonna get even close to that 07 and up, any brand,especially if you need 4wd. As far as gas vs diesel, it's all about torque, low end pull. The drivers around here don't mind taking 5 miles to get to 50mph, but i sure do. Hate to say it, but the big toyota tundra would be my next trial. AAAAAAgggghhhhh

 

[yelbike]

I have tried the commenter car route twice. Both times it didn't save me a dime over a 3 year period each. Time you figure in insurance, Maintaince, tags, ect. Only thing it did was save miles on my trucks.

Chris

Well darn it.... I agree with DP...aka Chris.

I haven't done the commuter car thing but you have to put a whole lot of miles to really justify it.

BTW Chris, I've read many of your posts. One misunderstood thing I think is, the newer 1/2 tow capacities have gotten to the same limits as where the older one tons used to be. The one tons have gotten high too. Don't quote me but aren't the dodge one ton capacity at 27000 lbs? And newer 1/2 ton trucks are generally around the 10000 lbs mark. If you look back 5,10 and 20 years ago, the numbers were way lower.

My point, when dp says the Eco boost is as good as a one ton, he MAY actually be right. BUT given the way the capacities rose over the years, its not fair to compare a mid 90s one ton to a new half ton. The capacities are almost close.

BTW Chris you could lay off the brand bashing a little bit! Lol

Popcorn anyone?

 

[Diamondpilot]

Well darn it.... I agree with DP...aka Chris. I haven't done the commuter car thing but you have to put a whole lot of miles to really justify it. BTW Chris, I've read many of your posts. One misunderstood thing I think is, the newer 1/2 tow capacities have gotten to the same limits as where the older one tons used to be. The one tons have gotten high too. Don't quote me but aren't the dodge one ton capacity at 27000 lbs? And newer 1/2 ton trucks are generally around the 10000 lbs mark. If you look back 5,10 and 20 years ago, the numbers were way lower. My point, when dp says the Eco boost is as good as a one ton, he MAY actually be right. BUT given the way the capacities rose over the years, its not fair to compare a mid 90s one ton to a new half ton. The capacities are almost close. BTW Chris you could lay off the brand bashing a little bit! Lol Popcorn anyone?

Yes, and if you go back and read my original statement I said my 2012 Eco Boost will out work and out tow my 99 Power Stroke.

There is a lot of technology giving these new truck the power and performance we could have only dreamed of 15 years ago.

Chris

 

[not2old]

Choosing the right axle ratio is important. I tow a basic 25' 5th. with my 1990 F250HD 460 motor, E4OD trans., 4x4 with4:10 gears. I installed a Gear Vendors overdrive and found I can pull double overdrive on flat ground just fine. I get an extra 50KM.(30 miles) from each of the two tanks and possibly a bit more when empty.

 

[Hughman]

2015 F-250 4x4, 3.73 axle, 6.2L gas. I'm still on my first tank of gas but if you believe the computer thingie on the dash, I'm getting 12.5 around town.

 

[OHVarmntr]

I have a 2001 Ram 2500, 4x4, 5.9 HO Cummins, NV5600 6-spd manual trans, 4.10s, regular cab, long bed pickup. It is carried on 35" BFG All-Terrain T/A KOs and also has a Quadzilla programmer and an AFE filter.

Unloaded I'm averaging 21mpg, with 22.4mpg being my absolute best. That's all hand calculated with a pencil at the pump, with mileage being adjusted for the tires. I recently took a trip to pick up my tractor, and I averaged 17.5mpg with my 6200lb tractor on a 2k trailer (yes I know the trailer was overloaded and it's not something I had planned on).

Believe it or not, bigger tires may not degrade fuel mileage, depending upon the vehicle and any mods. The amount of torque that diesel engines have, coupled with programmers, creates scenarios where larger tires can be used without robbing power (reducing fuel mileage). It helped the fuel mileage on my truck because it reduced engine RPMs at highway speed. ~1800rpm at 75mph makes for some good fuel mileage so long as boost stays at acceptable levels. The engine still has plenty of power with the 4.10s to maintain speeds without building too much boost and degrading mileage.

Anywho, I realize folks are very compassionate about brands. We just need to remember that compassion can cause real world numbers to become inflated. Besides, I'm not sure how sane anyone can be if they believe Ford didn't partake on any of the bailout funds that were thrown around lol

 

[yelbike]

I'm not sure how sane anyone can be if they believe Ford didn't partake on any of the bailout funds that were thrown around lol

I heard/read that ford restructured 2007 just before the "crash". Was it luck or good forecasting, who knows. But ford could easily have been in the same boat.

And to those who hate the dodge or gm for the bailouts, just try and imagine the economy without both those companies and the massive spin off business.

To the OP, sorry for the hijacked tread. I followed it closely at first, I have the same concern about fuel consumption.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I heard/read that ford restructured 2007 just before the "crash". Was it luck or good forecasting, who knows. But ford could easily have been in the same boat.

And to those who hate the dodge or gm for the bailouts, just try and imagine the economy without both those companies and the massive spin off business.

To the OP, sorry for the hijacked tread. I followed it closely at first, I have the same concern about fuel consumption.

Ford got lucky but luck is usually made with tough decisions and smart planning.

As for the world coming to a end that's what the liberal media wants you to believe. Just like Michael Brown, the kid killed in St Louis, is a good kid. He robbed a convenient store the day of his death and is also a primary suspect in a murder investigation. But none of thats really got reported.

Same thing with the bailout of GM. GM is not currently or has never been a top 100 US company. The would have simply declared bankruptcy like everyone else, sold off some assets while they were still worth something, and went back to business. Now we are stuck with the same old same old.

Dodge is a much better situation. They were in trouble, asked for help, then sold themselves to Fiat to take care of their financial obligations. I applaud them. Not to mention they are being innovative and increase market share while GM is going the other direction.

Believe whatever you want but the truth is never told by the media that leans left. Companies like the one I was with for 13.5 years whom supplied parts to GM and got $.03 on the dollar are still open. It put a hurting on us. We closed 3 of or 17 facilities and those of us who did keep our jobs were salary locked for 39 months but luck to still be working.

Chris