Wind Turbine ********. Just opened the mail and seen the plan for three massive units

[Loren49]

You know that's propaganda, why do you continue the misinformation. HS

Some peoples facts are viewed as propaganda by others. There are significant hidden external costs of burning any fossil fuel (everything has some hidden cost).

Do you have any credible reference to defend your belief?

Potential Health and Environmental Effects of Hydrofracking in the Williston Basin, Montana

Natural Gas Drilling: Impacts of Fracking on Health, Water | NRDC

Fracking OutpacesScience on Its Impact | EnvY : The Journal of the Yale School of Foresty and Environmental Studies

Michael McElroy and Xi Lu on natural gas, fracking, and U.S. energy prospects | Harvard Magazine Jan-Feb 2013

Loren

 

[houstonscott]

Listen, when you have to bring the facts with proof, that holds up in court in this country, your fracking pieces melt away to zero. Google UFO's, lots of stuff, but prove ET is buzzing around and landed in Roswell, that's a whole different thing. HS

 

[TomSeller]

, your fracking pieces melt away to zero. . HS

All the way to zero? Really? Unbelievable!

 

[Loren49]

Listen, when you have to bring the facts with proof, that holds up in court in this country, your fracking pieces melt away to zero. Google UFO's, lots of stuff, but prove ET is buzzing around and landed in Roswell, that's a whole different thing. HS

Interesting view...but not supported by facts:

Fracking Chemicals Case Heard By Wyoming Supreme Court

http://trib.com/business/energy/wyo...cle_7d15a01f-df71-5786-99fb-f4685d0c7279.html

The Wyoming Supreme Court on Wednesday reversed the ruling of a Casper judge who found that ingredients used in fracking fluids are exempt from public disclosure.

Wyoming Supreme Court Remands Fracking Chemical Disclosure Case To District Court For Reconsideration - Energy and Natural Resources - United States

Texas family plagued with ailments gets $3M in fracking judgment - CNN.com

Texas family plagued with ailments gets $3M in 1st-of-its-kind fracking judgment


You have an interesting use for "melts away to zero"

Even if there were no problems with fracking, burning of fossil fuels has significant external costs. Look it up under science.

Loren

 

[TomSeller]

Interesting view...but not supported by facts:

The Wyoming Supreme Court on Wednesday reversed the ruling of a Casper judge who found that ingredients used in fracking fluids are exempt from public disclosure.

Texas family plagued with ailments gets $3M in 1st-of-its-kind fracking judgment

You have an interesting use for "melts away to zero"

Even if there were no problems with fracking, burning of fossil fuels has significant external costs. Look it up under science.

Loren

Interesting. It sounds like Halliburton and Aruba were the real "Zeros". I guess you could say their defense "melted away to zero" in court.

 

[houstonscott]

Interesting view...but not supported by facts: Fracking Chemicals Case Heard By Wyoming Supreme Court http://trib.com/business/energy/wyoming-supreme-court-reverses-district-court-decision-on-fracking-fluids/article_7d15a01f-df71-5786-99fb-f4685d0c7279.html The Wyoming Supreme Court on Wednesday reversed the ruling of a Casper judge who found that ingredients used in fracking fluids are exempt from public disclosure. Wyoming Supreme Court Remands Fracking Chemical Disclosure Case To District Court For Reconsideration - Energy and Natural Resources - United States Texas family plagued with ailments gets $3M in fracking judgment - CNN.com Texas family plagued with ailments gets $3M in 1st-of-its-kind fracking judgment You have an interesting use for "melts away to zero" Even if there were no problems with fracking, burning of fossil fuels has significant external costs. Look it up under science. Loren

Well, I guess you are going to lead an unhappy life because fossil fuels are going to power the world for the next 1000 years with no issues. Air is clean, water is safe and clean, pollution is all but gone, certainly doesn't effect anyone, pollution left from the middle of the last century is being cleaned up and is nearly undetectable anywhere in the country. Put a tank of gas in the old Alfa Romeo (with no EPA crap on it) and go enjoy a road. Quit sitting around trying to tell us how bad it is, we should all live like you, and be unhappy. Life is good, enjoy it. HS

 

[Loren49]

Well, I guess you are going to lead an unhappy life because fossil fuels are going to power the world for the next 1000 years with no issues. Air is clean, water is safe and clean, pollution is all but gone, certainly doesn't effect anyone, pollution left from the middle of the last century is being cleaned up and is nearly undetectable anywhere in the country. Put a tank of gas in the old Alfa Romeo (with no EPA crap on it) and go enjoy a road. Quit sitting around trying to tell us how bad it is, we should all live like you, and be unhappy. Life is good, enjoy it. HS

You have no clue as to how much I enjoy life or how I'm living my life. You make unfounded and outright non factual claims in response to the facts that indicate your last post was made up. Undetectable....really..I won't bother and spend the couple minutes it would take reference numerous facts that indicate your claim again is ridiculous and false. If you care to become informed google US city air quality or fish consumption restrictions in US waters or ......


Its clearly time for your medications....if not, it should be.

You make claims....ignore information that contradict you...and make another outlandish claim??????

Loren

 

[houstonscott]

You have no clue as to how much I enjoy life or how I'm living my life. You make unfounded and outright non factual claims in response to the facts that indicate your last post was made up. Undetectable....really..I won't bother and spend the couple minutes it would take reference numerous facts that indicate your claim again is ridiculous and false. If you care to become informed google US city air quality or fish consumption restrictions in US waters or ...... Its clearly time for your medications....if not, it should be. You make claims....ignore information that contradict you...and make another outlandish claim?????? Loren

You sound mean spirited, hatful, and unhappy to me! The doom and gloom you spout simply isn't true, thankfully your types remain as marginalized as the tin foil hat guys. Better turn up the NG heat because the world is cooling has been for 18 years now. HS

 

[Sodo]

You make claims....ignore information that contradict you...and make another outlandish claim??

Loren theres no point debating with any of these fellas whose income is related to convincing people of a certain "direction". Their quality of life is tied to $$$ is their guiding light. They are motivated. Outlandish claims are his way to suck you in to an angry response - its his way of getting you to "discredit yourself".

 

[Sysop]

Anyone who thinks they have "all the facts" to actually "argue" either side is already discredited in my opinion. There are too many facts yet to be determined for anyone to be 100% correct. The situation is much larger than any study or our limited sciences can PROVE...

You have one side being paid to say one thing, the other side being paid to say another, and a bunch of folk in the middle. The middle crowd is seemingly clueless to the fact that getting all worked up about the talking points of either side is rather silly. Most folk seem to have issue stepping back and viewing it all for what it is.

It is a well known fact when the gossip/tabloid trashpapers at the grocery store are saying Will Smith had the child from an alien encounter, his next movie will get bigger numbers at the box office. Why they can't see that the "arguments" and "talking points" are just increases in pay for all the losers causing the conflict and confusion is beyond me...