Mosin-Nagant hex receiver

dirt ditch · Sep 30, 2015

paulharvey said:
Interesting Josh, I didn't know the Finns made a "proper" M91. I'll take a look at the magazine this evening when I get home.

According to my copy of The Book Of Rifles the Finns used Russian receivers. They did make all the other parts though. Here is the 3 pages of the book covering the Finnish Mosin-Nagants if your interested.

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Soundguy · Sep 30, 2015

my 44 vkt m39 is on a 1917 tula receiver..

paulharvey · Sep 30, 2015

Soundguy said:
my 44 vkt m39 is on a 1917 tula receiver..

Yeah, it would be cool to be able to link it back to Imperial Russian manufacturer. Did they (the Finns) intentionally deface/remove Russian/Soviet markings like many captured Germany guns where. That weird marking on my receiver looks like it might have been something, and then ground down under Finnish 'remanufacture'

Soundguy · Sep 30, 2015

the vkt i have still shows the imperial russian crest on the receiver, plus an AZF capture mark. ( AZF marking meaning the rifle was captured in WW1 by the Austrians from the Russians and then sold or given to the Finnish who used its receiver for this rifle )

on sako units you can find small buffed marks where they buffed out the imp russian crest.

to find the original date I had to pull the action from the stock and look at the bottom of the tang.

paulharvey · Sep 30, 2015

I ready some where, about an Imperial Russian Mosin that had Austro-Hungarian artillery unit marks, that ended up in Finnish hands; imagine if that gun could talk.

Think about the life story of the STG-44's that popped up in Al-Nusra's slimy hands a couple months ago in Homs.

Soundguy · Sep 30, 2015

I see some with civil guard marks too.

I'm always on the lookout for antique receiver models too.

Tula / hex receivers are my favorite

k0ua · Sep 30, 2015

paulharvey said:
I ready some where, about an Imperial Russian Mosin that had Austro-Hungarian artillery unit marks, that ended up in Finnish hands; imagine if that gun could talk.

Think about the life story of the STG-44's that popped up in Al-Nusra's slimy hands a couple months ago in Homs.

Wondering who is making ammo for those?

To research my own question, apparently privi partisan out of Serbia still makes 7.92 x 33. And it can be created from cut down 308 Winchester cases

paulharvey · Sep 30, 2015

k0ua said:
Wondering who is making ammo for those?

Czechoslokia made MP-44/Stg-44 post war, so I assume large amounts of ammo where made for it at the time; I've also seen mention of its manufacturer in Egypt/UAR (United Arab Republic: united Egypt and Syria);

Hmmm, seems that AK rifles in semi auto only are made in 7.92x33 (8mm Kruz) in Pakistan, for civilian use because 7.62x39 is "military only";

As a side note I read about 8mm x 56mmR Mannlicher ammo used in India in .303 English rifles; because the .303 is a "military only" round

Edit: Look up AK 44 bore; pattern 44 rifle; seems they are using 8mm Kruz in standard Ak47 barrels will reamed chambers in the tribal territories

Buggs67 · Sep 30, 2015

New stuff for sale at Empire Arms (I don't have any connection to them. Just thought it was appropriate since it consists of M-N rifles)

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paulharvey · Sep 30, 2015

Buggs67 said:
New stuff for sale at Empire Arms (I don't have any connection to them. Just thought it was appropriate since it consists of M-N rifles)

http://listbabyqa.hostbaby.com/ln/?c=7218672&l=1045993&k=3146e2e1c2ad8b763b0382b57ea97832

New Stuff for Wednesday, September 30th, 2015

Cool, and they are local (sorta). I sent an email. Thanks Buggs