Gotta love that backhoe! Thank you for the great photos. Best of use with your new tractor!
New Owner of a YM165
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Gotta love that backhoe! Thank you for the great photos. Best of use with your new tractor!
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gioacchino
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Yep, mine has a spring assembly that returns the decompression lever back to normal.
Happy to share. I only found a handful of posts about a YM165 when I was doing research before I made the purchase, so I'm more than happy to share information.
The backhoe is pretty neat. I'll be honest, at first I didn't want the backhoe, but the seller told me everything had to come as a package deal. But now that I have it home and have tinkered with it, I will probably just keep it. I do work around the property with other 3 point implements, so I do need to experiment with removing the backhoe.
normde2001
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Springs good but still too much drag. Have never needed or used except to bring up oil pressure on cold start. Starts instantly without it.
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A tip on removing the backhoe: I have a chunk of 10 x 12 wood a couple of ft long I slip under the backhoe with the 3-point raised, then set its chassis down on that. The point is you need to balance it so it won't tip forward or back when it is left alone because that makes it more difficult to re-mount later. Then for installing it - back up close, connect hydraulics, use the hoe's hydraulics to operate both feet and the boom for final precision alignment. Much easier than using a long prybar. But stay out of dangerous crush zones! Turn the engine off before reaching in to install pins etc.
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Thanks for the tips. This unit is a little different though. It is not a 3 point mount. The 3 point arms have to be removed first, and the backhoe attaches to the tractor frame. As far as I know (I will have to definitely take a better look at things before I remove the backhoe), the PTO hydraulic pump is actually attached to the backhoe itself. This is how the previous owner described removing the backhoe;
Get yourself in a decently flat spot. Lower the backhoe outriggers to remove pressure off of the frame. Best I can tell the backhoe is attached to the frame with 2 bolts and a steel tube through something like a c-channel. Sort of hard to explain in words. I'll have to take pictures later as I tinker around. Once you remove pressure off the frame, undo the 2 bolts. He then said to kind of push the tractor forward a bit and the backhoe should start to slide off. At this point you need to push the little pin on the PTO pump/shaft to remove the shaft from the pump. Then he side you just drive off.
Sounds simple, we will see how easy it is lol. I do plan to put a large block of wood under the backhoe when it is free from the tractor though to keep it from falling over or something like that.
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That's good news if it is a frame-mount instead of 3-point. That design is much stronger, so less likely to harm the tractor.
clemsonfor
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Yea! These things are from the 70s!
clemsonfor
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Mine works just at California describes and do it just like he wrote.
I too have a recently acquired 165d. I am impressed the Thermostart actually works. Out of curiosity on one -10 F night I went out and started it with no problem on third try with the compression release. Took 20 minutes for the hydraulics to warm up enough to lift the 3pt but it started with no problem.
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gioacchino
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That’s awesome! How long have you owned your YM165? Any tips or advice for me?
I don’t have any tips. I am just figuring it out too. So far I have been really impressed that the tractor has guts and is really solid. I have used it so far with a 5ft box blade and a rear finish mower made by Yanmar. I have the turf tire setup which is really stable. Hoye Tractor has been very helpful. I am looking at putting a ROPS on it. The live PTO is kind of a pain but I do have the over running clutch which is huge. I am definitely envious of your loader. This is the first tractor I have had without one and I miss it. Any idea which model Kubota loader you have? As I learn more I will be happy to share whatever I find out.
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gioacchino
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Yep, I'm going to order a quick-connect PTO over-running clutch for mine for when I have to bush hog or rototill. I don't know what model the loader is on mine. Next time I am out around it I will take a look for a badge or something like that.
Just curious, what size finish mower do you pull with your tractor?
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Did you mean a slip clutch?
As Winston said, this model and all the US Yanmars already have an over-run clutch inside the transmission so far as I know. It is similar to the coasting mechanism on a bicycle, a one-way ratchet. Its purpose is to prevent the inertia of a mower etc from pushing you after you push in the clutch. A rototiller doesn't really need one, it doesn't have much inertia and will usually be slowed by the soil.
With the engine off engage the PTO and try turning the shaft in both directions. One way should ratchet.
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gioacchino
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This is what I was referring to, except quick-connect.
Interesting about having an internal over-run clutch. Does this ever need to be serviced or anything like that? I will have to do the test of shutting the engine off and trying to turn to the PTO shaft.
Interesting. It is possibly I have two because I definitely have the external one. Guess I won’t be having an overrun problem! I think it is a 4 ft finish mower but I will have to check. Not that I will need it anytime soon as we got another three inches of snow overnight.
clemsonfor
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The American ones have an internal one like Winston said.
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gioacchino
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Somehow I have developed a radiator leak at the bottom of my radiator. I am going to try to repair the radiator, but in case I have to purchase one, do any other Yanmar model radiators cross reference with a YM165 radiator?
Thanks.
Thanks.
