Shortening folding ROPS on BX24

   / Shortening folding ROPS on BX24 #51  
A diamond shaped plate will allow for more weld reinforcement and make the joint as stronger or stronger then the original box tube was.
 
   / Shortening folding ROPS on BX24 #52  
A diamond shaped plate will allow for more weld reinforcement and make the joint as stronger or stronger then the original box tube was.
Interesting.
So cut a square and weld it with points at 0, 90, 180, 270?
 
   / Shortening folding ROPS on BX24 #53  
A stretched out 6 or 8 sided shape will allow for more weld length to reinforce the plain butt weld and it will spread any stresses or loads to a larger area.
 
   / Shortening folding ROPS on BX24 #54  
A stretched out 6 or 8 sided shape will allow for more weld length to reinforce the plain butt weld and it will spread any stresses or loads to a larger area.
That makes sense. That's good info.

I'm thinking a diamond would be enough. I don't plan on making use of it :)
 
   / Shortening folding ROPS on BX24 #55  
That makes sense. That's good info.

I'm thinking a diamond would be enough. I don't plan on making use of it :)

None of us do, and so far in almost 60 years on tractors I haven't used one, been real close a few times.
Teetered on 2 or 3 wheels a couple of times and come close to going over backwards a few.
Took a Ford 8000 up almost straight with a set semi-mounted of 5 bottom plows once, thought
it was going to hurt for a bit.
 
   / Shortening folding ROPS on BX24 #56  
None of us do, and so far in almost 60 years on tractors I haven't used one, been real close a few times.
Teetered on 2 or 3 wheels a couple of times and come close to going over backwards a few.
Took a Ford 8000 up almost straight with a set semi-mounted of 5 bottom plows once, thought
it was going to hurt for a bit.

Yea I think everyone knows that uneasy feeling when you're carrying a load and something doesn't seem right and you have to lower the load immediately or turn into or down a hill.

Here's a video of a bunch of guys rolling their tractors by mistake.
Two Kubota compact tractors & Mini excavator have two roll over accidents. - YouTube

Neither guy has their ROPS up.

So yeah maybe tonight I'll cut some squares and reinforce the welds.

**** after watching that video I feel like welding an external cage :)
 
   / Shortening folding ROPS on BX24 #57  
That first guy didn't learn anything, he almost flipped it again. I can't imagine having two accidents in that short period of time... operator inexperience?
 
   / Shortening folding ROPS on BX24 #58  
Using a sleeve on the inside, would be the strongest, and cleanest way to do this kind of butt weld.

sleeving-tubes.jpg

The "Kubota engineers" are not the ones responsible for the height of a ROPS.

The U.S. Government regulates, and mandates the size, and standards for a ROPS.

Though a popular belief, the extra height is not there to piss people off. It's to allow the ROPS to be able to resist the tractor flipping over backwards.
 
   / Shortening folding ROPS on BX24 #59  
For those with new machines under warranty, check your paperwork. Mine clearly says NOT to alter, drill or weld anything to that bar.
 
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   / Shortening folding ROPS on BX24 #60  
It’s your tractor and as long as you don’t hire a person to drive it there is no problem. The ROPS height is dictated by an international, not USA, standard and was really established by manufacturers being sued and having the negative publicity of machinery deaths. Manufacturers place the decal as a CYA item. Height is dictated by the 90th percentile human bottom height and was established by testing with dummies and rolling machines down hills and examining the results. In my fatal accident investigations the first thing I checked for was ROPS label, modifications, and seat belt use, condition. But that only meant something if there is an accident. I’ve been asked by dealers getting a machine in on trade and finding an altered ROPS if the alteration was okay and always had to say no even if I felt there was no issue. The dealer could use their own judgement but the company’s liability is too high. If there is an accident the suer always goes for the deepest pockets and in every fatal accident there is a suit. You might say I’d never do that but you are dead and insurance companies, relatives you never knew of, they all come out of the woodwork.
 

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