range selector for hst supposed to be extremely hard to shift?

[CobyRupert]

Does anybody double clutch anymore?

 

[wagne223]

Does anybody double clutch anymore?

No, LOL!

 

[wagne223]

I'm on flat ground, and shifting it was flexing the lever!

Are you reading the responses?
Flat ground has nothing to do with it.

 

[George2615]

As mentioned before, tap the forward or reverse pedal while moving the range select and it should go right in. It may also be hard to shift if you are in 4WD.
Not sure about the RK but my HST has no clutch pedal.

 

[ptsg]

Apart from the cost, is there any other good reason to why the manufacturers just don't make a full synchronized transmission for both HST and Geared tractors? The range gears seems to always be straight cut gears in every tractor up to 100 HP. It's about time the fix this. Another solution to help making it easier to shift would be to chamfer the gear teeth edges.

 

[wagne223]

Apart from the cost, is there any other good reason to why the manufacturers just don't make a full synchronized transmission for both HST and Geared tractors? The range gears seems to always be straight cut gears in every tractor up to 100 HP. It's about time the fix this. Another solution to help making it easier to shift would be to chamfer the gear teeth edges.

Straight cut gears are stronger. No scyronizers means less parts to wear. Since these are not gear banging transmissions there is no need for angle cut synchronized gears.

I like the way it is, less to worry about.

 

[Soundguy]

Are you reading the responses?
Flat ground has nothing to do with it.

I am reading the responses, but perhaps you aren't?

There have been some comments mentioning to be careful if you are on a slope and shifting ranges... Thus my response of being on flat land, thus flat ground does indeed have a part in the discussion.

And to address another comment, mine has no clutch either.

 

[Looking4new]

And to address another comment, mine has no clutch either.

Mine has a clutch and double clutching doesn't do any good. Still stiff as he!!.

 

[Diggin It]

Yesterday I found that just flexing the brake pedal a couple of times helped.

 

[s219]

Anything you do to nudge the gears a little in one direction or other will help. It can be bumping the HST pedals/treadle, letting the tractor roll a teeny bit, etc. Just do all that stuff and make sure the tractor is stationary before you move the lever again.

 

[Tennsawdust]

Pretty much the same kind of thing you have to do sometimes to shift any of the old crashbox tractors. I learned to drive in old farm trucks without synchros, so having to roll gears around until they fit seems fairly normal. Some of those old trucks felt like they had boulders in the transmission - double clutch while putting both feet on the back of the cab and your shoulder into the shift lever.....

 

[HillStreet]

Mine has a clutch and double clutching doesn't do any good. Still stiff as he!!.

I remember double clutching in the 登ld days? but today I can稚 remember why we did it.

 

[ovrszd]

Soundguy, think of it the same as shifting the ole gear drive 4wd truck from high to low in the transfer case. Same exact thing is happening.

 

[ning]

I remember double clutching in the 登ld days? but today I can稚 remember why we did it.

For example, say you're running 2,000 rpm in 4th gear, and you want to downshift to 3rd. For the current velocity let's say that 3rd would be at 3,000 rpm.
So, you clutch in, shift to neutral, clutch out, rev the engine to 3,000rpm, then clutch in, shift to 3rd, nice & easy, synchro or not.

 

[nybirdman]

Both of my new Kubota's had a similar "problem" but worn in as time went on.Slight movement when shifting will help.

 

[Soundguy]

Anything you do to nudge the gears a little in one direction or other will help. It can be bumping the HST pedals/treadle, letting the tractor roll a teeny bit, etc. Just do all that stuff and make sure the tractor is stationary before you move the lever again.

The pedal trick worked for me, the range selector now shifts pretty much like a mania granny shifter. I'm super happy.

Unloaded a 1000# compressed alfalfa bale from the back of my truck using a sling.. Had the ac going, was nice..

 

[Soundguy]

Soundguy, think of it the same as shifting the ole gear drive 4wd truck from high to low in the transfer case. Same exact thing is happening.

You are correct of course. And that's all it took.. Just a hair of motion fore or aft and it was much easier.

My 98 dodge ram was like that. Short stick on the floor. A little roll helped.

 

[ovrszd]

You are correct of course. And that's all it took.. Just a hair of motion fore or aft and it was much easier.

My 98 dodge ram was like that. Short stick on the floor. A little roll helped.

Hope you enjoy the new tractor!!! Whole new world for you. I always considered you an "old school" guy in regards to tractors.

 

[k0ua]

Does anybody double clutch anymore?

Don't have a clutch....

 

[k0ua]

Funny thing is most people think of Hydro, and think of Hydraulics, and don't understand why the range shifting can be cantankerous. Of course the range gears have nothing to do with the hydro pump and hydro motor. They are just an old straight cut gear crashbox with no synchronizers in it stuck on the end of the hydraulic motor.