Battery question

[1930]

I need a battery for my b6100. E.

someone put a car battery in it and while it works fine it doesn't quite fit the tray properly.

I've called around to several places and I'm getting very conflicting information.

Kubota dealer in Lakeland is telling me that they sell car batteries for tractors that they're not specific for tractor they're just normal car batteries.

I can buy a car battery a lot cheaper than I can buy a tractor battery but I thought tractor batteries had more amperage and lasted longer not being used?

Napa told me that a tractor battery was nothing more than a fancy word for a car battery?

 

[topbuilder]

A branded tractor battery will probably cost more. Cranking amps is where it's at. I have some equipment I run generic batteries in. When fitting a specific battery tray, I stick with dealer batteries.

 

[dusty3030]

It should be a size 51R.

Here is a cheaper short warranty one -
https://www.autozone.com/batteries-...attery/econocraft-battery/811865_485545_25698

Here is a little more expensive longer warranty one -
https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart-Maxx-Lead-Acid-Automotive-Battery-Group-Size-51R/28275660


Keep in mind, there really aren't that many battery manufacturers. Johnson Controls, Exide, and East Penn pretty much make any you are going to find. Whoever you like doing business with (Walmart, AutoZone, Interstate, Advance, Napa, Oreilly etc etc.) their brand of battery is going to be made by one of those three.

 

[CobyRupert]

A branded tractor battery will probably cost more. Cranking amps is where it's at. I have some equipment I run generic batteries in. When fitting a specific battery tray, I stick with dealer batteries.

Correct cold cranking amps (CCA) is where it's at!....but then:
It needs to fit in vehicles battery compartment. This is where the battery size (code) comes into play. Battery size codes can be found online. Best CCA in correct size code is best! ....but then:
The terminal configuration also needs to be correct (Is positive/negative post on left, right, front, back, top, side, etc...? ) for vehicle's cables. Best CCA in correct size code...with correct terminal locations is best!!

 

[Industrial Toys]

I have always thought that tractor/equipment batteries were way over kill. Especially on a healthy engine in moderate climate. Now, an old worn out engine in the cold, will take every bit of that huge battery.

 

[1930]

Ok thanks, I'm gonna get the decent one.

Busy right now I'll comment more later but it's purring like a kitten right now and that's partly thanks to you guys

 

[Dave M7040]

My friend never regretted putting a heavy battery out front on his B7100.

His strategy is to regularly install a new battery in his car and put the car battery in the Kubota.

That way in very cold weather the car always starts. The Kubota is very happy with a slightly old battery with far more CCA's than would be available from a proper battery fitting under the hood.

Dave

 

[Scrambler82]

I've was told from a friend that worked for Exide... most batteries are prices based on the warranty, i.e. 2 yr, 4 yr, etc. !

Have purchased DieHard batteries from Sears for years... and like clock work every four years I need to replace the battery... in fact I purchased a new battery for my truck in Mar/2015, I started to have problems in Jan/2019 of this year and went back to Sears... no problem found ! I just had to replace it 5/2019, still fours years and I paid for a 2 years warranty, so I guess I saved.

I am expecting in 2023 to have to replace this again, yes I keep my vehicles for as long as they run and get me around... my truck is a 2003 and it likes the Die Hard Batteries.

Also, I am taking my OEM Mahindra Battery (Not a DieHard) to Sear tomorrow, it has started to give up the ghost and I need it to start WHEN I need it. We will see what they offer me for a replacement battery and see if they have a "Tractor" Battery !

I will post as soon as I remember that I said I would. (Granddaughter has me all day today, she graduates preschool this afternoon, we go for an Ice Cream Run and then to the Toy Store for her to select her present for graduating, no time for a battery right now) !

Ltr

 

[Industrial Toys]

The problem is that the name on a battery is somewhat meaningless. Maybe several manufacturers make different sized batteries for the same name. Or make a run for a contract and never again. Who knows? It's a bit of a racket, this battery business.

Plus, who verifies that the specs on a battery are truthful? Maybe as bad a the HP rating on a shop vac!

I use nothing but Yuasa batteries in my security equipment. Some I have removed after a dozen years or more! 12 Volt, 7 amp/hour. Now, the batteries have the same size and rating, but seem to weigh much less and I might only get three years out of them. Something stinks! They obviously, can make a really good battery, but it seems to me, they try and make the cheapest one that will suffice these days. And sell one four times as often! But no one is complaing because it's almost the easiest money a security dealer can make.

 

[AndyMA]

It should be a size 51R.

Here is a cheaper short warranty one -
https://www.autozone.com/batteries-...attery/econocraft-battery/811865_485545_25698

Here is a little more expensive longer warranty one -
https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart-Maxx-Lead-Acid-Automotive-Battery-Group-Size-51R/28275660


Keep in mind, there really aren't that many battery manufacturers. Johnson Controls, Exide, and East Penn pretty much make any you are going to find. Whoever you like doing business with (Walmart, AutoZone, Interstate, Advance, Napa, Oreilly etc etc.) their brand of battery is going to be made by one of those three.

Johnson Controls announces deal to sell automotive battery business for $13.2 billion. Johnson Controls International plc has agreed to sell its automotive battery business to a Canadian private equity firm and institutional investors, including an entity that manages public pension plans in Quebec, for $13.2 billion.Nov 13, 2018

 

[10backacres]

RE; battery question, Since I have a jd4600 the battery is in front of the radiator. I decided to put in a gold top optima, it's sealed so the out gassing of sulfuric acid if any won,'t corrode the radiator, sealed so it won't leak from rough ground vibrations got 8 years on it so far. It's a little spendy but then so is the time to R&R, go to town for a new one!

 

[1930]

Ill measure the tray size tomm, its pretty small though. Why stay away from deep cycle? Thanks

 

[dusty3030]

Ill measure the tray size tomm, its pretty small though. Why stay away from deep cycle? Thanks

Deep cycle is good for a constant draw for a long time, not good for starting. Starting battery is good for a high draw in short burst, but not as good for a constant draw over a long time.
You want a starting battery.

 

[1930]

Ive finished doing most of what I needed and should have done to the B6100 when I purchased some time ago, Ive greased everything, changed all the fluids, changed all the filters, got the electrical figured out so all the lights work and even the horn.

It has a hazard switch, not sure how that is supposed to work, it does nothing at this point, I have one aftermarket light on right side that comes on the moment the key is on and I have a left factory tailight that comes on when I turn the lights on.

Not sure how a hazard is supposed to come into play.

One of the fuses had melted itself into the plastic casing so there was no contact with the wire end, after finding and fixing that all is well.

The fuel filter gave me fits to remove ( as in I had to forcibly extract from the fuel bowl ( Im assuming mines been replaced since its plastic )

Someone had left the cap of the old fuel filter up inside of the housing, I didnt figure that out right away myself, the small rubber O ring was shredded down inside the fuel bowl, all this time and for who know how long the fuel system hasnt been filtered because of this.

I also replaced the fuel lines since they were not pliable.

Did a bit of welding repair, the draw bar housing was broken in two where it contacted the diff and the fuel filter housing bracket was split nearly in two as well requiring repair.

Lots more was done that Im sure Im forgetting

Anyway I still have more questions, Ill make another topic and put them there all together. Thanks to everyone

BTW I got my FSM tonight, I finally found a reasonably priced one, Im sure it will be a big help

 

[1930]

Deep cycle is good for a constant draw for a long time, not good for starting. Starting battery is good for a high draw in short burst, but not as good for a constant draw over a long time.
You want a starting battery.

Never been told this, thanks

 

[1930]

My friend never regretted putting a heavy battery out front on his B7100.

His strategy is to regularly install a new battery in his car and put the car battery in the Kubota.

That way in very cold weather the car always starts. The Kubota is very happy with a slightly old battery with far more CCA's than would be available from a proper battery fitting under the hood.

Dave

I need to add that is one great looking tractor, Id like to see more pics

 

[ultrarunner]

Deep cycle is good for a constant draw for a long time, not good for starting. Starting battery is good for a high draw in short burst, but not as good for a constant draw over a long time.
You want a starting battery.

The battery in my Samurai was 11 years old and I was given a new/used deep cycle Interstate Battery... it was in a camper and they upgraded the electrical and took the new battery out...

I thought why not give it a try in the 4wd Samurai... it has been a couple years now and zero issues... spins up that little 4 cylinder just fine...

 

[Scook222]

Marine Deep cycle batteries are rated for cranking amps too. They will last longer for running a trolling motor all day and still have enough reserve capacity to crank an engine. I use them on tractors, electric fences, and old diesel trucks that have glow plugs. When the battery in my rtv does I will probably replace it with a marine battery to help with the 8000lb winch that I winch logs and stuff.

 

[ultrarunner]

One of the ads I remember for marine batteries is they are or this brand is built to withstand more shock and vibration... no idea if this is still true but some boats take a tremendous beating at times...

 

[rScotty]

I need a battery for my b6100. E.

1.someone put a car battery in it and while it works fine it doesn't quite fit the tray properly.
2.I've called around to several places and I'm getting very conflicting information.
3.Kubota dealer in Lakeland is telling me that they sell car batteries for tractors that they're not specific for tractor they're just normal car batteries.
4.I can buy a car battery a lot cheaper than I can buy a tractor battery but I thought tractor batteries had more amperage and lasted longer not being used?
5.Napa told me that a tractor battery was nothing more than a fancy word for a car battery?

1. It doesn't matter as long as the battery is not too much smaller than the tray.
2. I hope you don't find that to be surprising
3. Good for that dealer. They are correct, and they are saving you money.
4. Nope. It is true that you can buy special special batteries for tractor or cars, but electrically they are so close to being the same that it doesn't matter. A special high capacity tractor battery is just not necessaryfor a small diesel tractor (under 75 hp or so) that is not being used in arctic conditions.
For something like a B6100 buying anything more than a small car battery is just a waste of money.
If you want to spend more, put your money into a good AGM type car battery that fits your battery tray.
5. Yep. Good on them as well.
6. As for deep cycle vs starting batteries....what you are hearing is true about the difference; but it doesn't make enough of a difference on a small diesel again not being used in arctic weather. Just buy the one you like best.
7. And if a battery is anywhere near the radiator (or even if it is not) then you will be much happier if you buy a sealed one. Most of the AGM type batteries on the market today are sealed batteries. They don't outgas acid fumes and never need water. Absolutely worth the money.

Be sure to clean the terminals on the battery wires. Both ends. Don't forget to clean where the (-) connector bolts to the tractor frame.
good luck,
rScotty