A good quality Log Splitter

   / A good quality Log Splitter #21  
I have the same splitter as Eddie but an older version. Mine has a solid steel foot at the bottom of the beam vs the cast one like on Eddies. It was years after I got mine they made the switch. I too have a Honda. It's the 'homeowner' grade engine but it has over 1000 hours on it now. About the only problem I've had is the dampener in the lovejoy joint. I didn't pay attention to it until it fell apart. Now I replace it after about 5 years of use no matter what. Tractor Supply has them in stock for a few bucks and it's only 3 bolts to remove the engine. I also change the oil every year. If it's not going to be used for a few months I make sure the ram is retracted and I shut the gas off and let the engine run the carb dry.

As for what type of splitter is right for you, that's a hard one. I started off using one with the splitting wedge welded to the end of the beam. What I found was that pushing the round made more work for me. If the round needed to be split a second time I was bending over to pick up the one that fell to the ground which was almost always on the other side of the splitter. Having the wedge be adjustable with the 4 way adapter would have made it nice and I might have gotten a splitter of that style but they were $4k+. While I use my splitter often mine wasn't much more than $1200 so it was a big jump up. With the style that has the wedge that move the split wood is right in front of you. When it's the size I want I can toss it into a pile or the back of my truck. I often find having a table on the opposite side of when I stand is nice. If it's all small wood I will back my truck up and with the tailgate down it works well. If the rounds are large, the size which you might want a log lift for (which my splitter can be stood up so the can be split on the ground if I want), I use my loader on the tractor. I can drive up to the rounds, load 4 of them, and place it in an easy spot to roll them out onto the splitter. When they are split but are still too large one side just falls back into the loader. In your case you could just put the tote right at the foot of the splitter and stack them in the tote as you split them and skip picking them up the ground after splitting.

I'm not trying to talk you into buying what you don't want but I'm not sure if you will find what you want in your price range. What I can tell you is my 'Troy Built' (MTD) 27 ton splitter with a Honda 5.5hp engine might be a budget splitter but that doesn't mean it's not built to last. It does have some limitations. The return stroke is probably at least 10 seconds (I rarely let it go all the way back) but it does have a detent so it's automatic. The wheels have the bearings in them vs lug nuts like a trailer so I don't know if they would be happy going to long tows at high speeds. But towing it around my property they work just fine. It came with plastic fenders that didn't last much more than a year or two. I did replace them with some from a 50 year old boat trailer that were super heavy duty but the fact is that fenders really aren't needed unless you plan on towing it down the road in the rain. But being as narrow as it is towing it with a pickup is kind of hard as you can't see it.
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #22  
OK, I have a DIY splitter.
PTO operated, bases on a 6" I beam with a nice wedge at the work end.
My cost was $25 or so for the channel and $25 the cylinder. Valve was another $30.
It is mounted for my PTO using tractor hydraulic power.
Not the fastest on the planet but all I an handle.
If lots of $$'s go for best specs and enjoy.
As to me, for my occasional usage I don't mind a few seconds for every cycle.
Oh, and power is not lacking as I can cut green maple crosswise when I feel like it.
Being PTO mounted I simply drive tractor ahead of that cumbersome pile of split wood.
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #23  
Finding a simple horizontal splitter now-a-days is like finding hens teeth. The closest one that comes to mind that slightly exceeds your budget are the Wallenstines. $2200. Same type I paid $750 brand new for 20 years ago.
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #24  
I have no interest in a 3PH mounted splitter as it ties up my tractor that is used to move logs to the cutting table and to move IBC totes of wood from the splitting area. Working next to a tractor at near full throttle for a few hours does not seem pleasant either.


I was hoping someone had direct experience with the kinetic splitters from DR as they seem to be a good fit for my needs.
No problem if you don't want a 3 point splitter, but IF you have to run your tractor "wide open" to use one, you made a poor choise in a 3 point splitter!! I run mine at 1200 rpms and it's powerful and fast... Also, the engine is waaay on the other end of the tractor, those little motors are the screamers.

As for the DR, on other forums, folks have had problems with those kinetic's, I wouldn't have one from DR.

SR
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #25  
Yes, my first experience with a small Subie....made a believer out of me, fantastic small engine.

Yes, Subarus are great engines but they got out of the market and are not available as new any longer.

On splitters, I would have thought that someone would have made a horizontal/vertical that has the ability to swap the wedge off of the ram and exchange it with the foot. It could be used as a push through and as a H/V and have the advantages or both.
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #26  
Yes, Subarus are great engines but they got out of the market and are not available as new any longer.

On splitters, I would have thought that someone would have made a horizontal/vertical that has the ability to swap the wedge off of the ram and exchange it with the foot. It could be used as a push through and as a H/V and have the advantages or both.
I didn't know Subaru quit the small engine business. That stinks. They were better than Honda. I guess the chinese Honda clones ate up alot of the market.
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #27  
Here's another company that makes a simple splitter kind of in your price range: 2 AND 3 TON HTR SPLITTERS

It reads 2-3 ton splitters but they're really 20 and 30 ton.
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #28  
I didn't know Subaru quit the small engine business. That stinks. They were better than Honda. I guess the chinese Honda clones ate up alot of the market.

Their newer engines were a shell of the old ones. They started off as Wisconsin.. Which was probably one of the best small engines ever built. Wisconsin/Robins (Fuji Heavy Industries) came out as a cheaper version of the venerable Wisconsins. Fuji (parent company of Subaru) changed the name to Subaru/Robin. They had a lot of growing pains with these engines. They were also prone to hydrolock when excess gas would leak through their carbs and down into their crankcase. I have one of these paper weights sitting in my garage.
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #29  
No problem if you don't want a 3 point splitter, but IF you have to run your tractor "wide open" to use one, you made a poor choise in a 3 point splitter!! I run mine at 1200 rpms and it's powerful and fast... Also, the engine is waaay on the other end of the tractor, those little motors are the screamers.

As for the DR, on other forums, folks have had problems with those kinetic's, I wouldn't have one from DR.

SR


I still say a 7 second splitter with a 4way will produce just as much wood as the kinetics with one person splitting.. The videos I've seen of these kinetics show them getting hung up on larger stuff. I guess it depends on the type of wood one is most likely to split. Red oak: no problem. White oak at 18": could be problematic.
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #30  
Though I don’t have the vertical capability, the Timberwolf TW1 I have is a good one. Honda engine has never failed to start. It pushes through a wedge onto a “catch table”.

My current setup is that I raised it on some ramps to working height, placed a piece of conveyor with rollers on one side and work from the opposite side.

I try to back the dump trailer close by the conveyor, load about 6-10 rounds then feed them through by reaching across with a can’t hook to pull them.
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #31  
I didn't know Subaru quit the small engine business. That stinks. They were better than Honda. I guess the chinese Honda clones ate up alot of the market.

News to me as well...along with Ariens getting out of the splitter biz. Too bad, as both have performed great for me. Oh well, glad I have mine, it will get passed on to my boys when I am no longer able to use it.
 
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Here's another company that makes a simple splitter kind of in your price range: 2 AND 3 TON HTR SPLITTERS

It reads 2-3 ton splitters but they're really 20 and 30 ton.

Never heard of them but they are on my list now. Thanks for posting the link.

Also, I agree with your comment about adding a 4 way wedge....it makes a lot of sense. It takes a 13 sec machine to 6.5 seconds effective speed. The down side is a splitter with more force is needed and the larger machines seem to be slower unless you get to the commercial units (expensive).
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #33  
Not sure on the Subaru motors. I have a several year old Gravely commercial push mower with a Subaru motor. I wonder when they stopped using them.
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #34  
I got an Oregon horizonal/vertical splitter used. It has the Kohler engine, which while not as good as a Honda has been fine. (it looks very similar to a Honda, I wonder if they borrowed design features). I have tried vertical once. It's hard for me to push big rounds under the ram. Instead use the chain saw to cut them into pieces along the grain ("noodling"). That's faster and easier than wrestling with a big round. I put a table on it which helps productivity.

I'd prefer a push through splitter with a table. The only problem I can think of with that is getting a partially split piece stuck on the wedge. The other thing I'd like is a log lift. The HTRs look nice, I have bookmarked that in case I get tired of the Oregon.
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #35  
Another vote for the Troy Bilt splitter with the Honda engine. Mine has held up extremely well through the years and I am especially impressed with the reliability of the engine. I built a shelf that has really been a back and time saver.


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If cost was no issue I would probably consider the Split Fire or similar for speed.
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #36  
Never heard of them but they are on my list now. Thanks for posting the link.

Also, I agree with your comment about adding a 4 way wedge....it makes a lot of sense. It takes a 13 sec machine to 6.5 seconds effective speed. The down side is a splitter with more force is needed and the larger machines seem to be slower unless you get to the commercial units (expensive).

I have a 16 ton plane jane horizontal splitter the uses the 4 way very effectively. 15" round is commonplace to go right through. Built a table using 2x6's and sheet steel.
 

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   / A good quality Log Splitter #37  
I have a 16 ton plane jane horizontal splitter the uses the 4 way very effectively. 15" round is commonplace to go right through. Built a table using 2x6's and sheet steel.

What are you splitting? Ash, red oak maple?
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #38  
I still say a 7 second splitter with a 4way will produce just as much wood as the kinetics with one person splitting.. The videos I've seen of these kinetics show them getting hung up on larger stuff. I guess it depends on the type of wood one is most likely to split. Red oak: no problem. White oak at 18": could be problematic.
And I say you are right!

In the firewood shootout at the Paul Bunyan show, a TW5 with a 4-way wedge, tromped the kinetics because the shootout had some bigger wood to split.

SR
 
   / A good quality Log Splitter #39  
The Subaru small engines are history... The design/tooling was sold to three companies that I know of.

Kubota bought one or two of them for their gas engine products. Yamaha bought a couple or three and the rest was sold to a china company, who is going to put them back into production, made in china.

SR
 
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I have looked at a lot of hydraulic units and found a couple that work but some are nearly $4000. DR has their RapidFire kinetic splitter on sale for $1800. Does anyone have experience with them?

RapidFire Log Splitter (Outsplits 28 Ton Wood Splitters) | DR Power Equipment

Thanks,
Yes, we have a DR K55 for five years. Would have purchased a SuperSplit if they'd bothered to answer the phone.

We split Ash, Birch, Maple and Oak. It works great and is ridiculously faster than hydraulic. Has a Chonda of some sort but it alway starts right up. We use ethanol-free fuel.

Wouldn't hesitate to buy a smaller model next time.

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