Got wood?

[4570Man]

I haven’t seen any reduction in actual price though.

 

[TMGT]

Lumber peaked in August. It has fallen around 45% in commodity pricing since then.

Prices will be falling here shortly.

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I hope so, have a few projects I'd like to do soon but prices have kept me from starting them.

 

[fatjay]

I think production has slowed with lumber products due to the prices. Which means it'll take longer for the lumber yards and hardware stores to work through the expensive wood to move to the cheaper wood. Although I haven't seen the stocks refilling yet either. I ordered my yards last 24 sheets of plywood and picked another dozen 2x8's myself because the limited stock they had left was pretty sorry looking.

 

[dragoneggs]

Lumber peaked in August. It has fallen around 45% in commodity pricing since then.

Prices will be falling here shortly.

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That is encouraging. Wonder what the lag time is before we see it reflected in the lumber stores?

 

[Jstpssng]

That is encouraging. Wonder what the lag time is before we see it reflected in the lumber stores?

I bought a sheet of plywood at a small local yard last Friday. They told me that they saw a reduction in their latest order. Keep in mind though that lumber futures aren't controlled by the mills; rather, by commodity brokers just like oil or pork bellies.

 

[Snobdds]

That is encouraging. Wonder what the lag time is before we see it reflected in the lumber stores?

depends on how much inventory turnover happens, but large buyers like Lowe's use this metric to purchase future stock.

 

[fatjay]

Just picked up another 10 sheets of 15/32 plywood, down to $30 and change. So that saved me 50 bucks right there.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Brandi,
The unofficial State of Jefferson!

Then you know about Rough 'n Ready in Cave Junction. The mill surrounded by millions of acres of national forest closed because it couldn't get enough logs to operate.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Then you know about Rough 'n Ready in Cave Junction. The mill surrounded by millions of acres of national forest closed because it couldn't get enough logs to operate.

Do we have to cut down every tree?

 

[MossRoad]

Do we have to cut down every tree?

Lumber is a renewable resource that's actually good for the environment, unlike steel and concrete, which are finite materials that require huge amounts of energy to produce.

So, give back every piece of lumber you and your family have every lived under and we'll talk.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Lumber is a renewable resource that's actually good for the environment, unlike steel and concrete, which are finite materials that require huge amounts of energy to produce.

So, give back every piece of lumber you and your family have every lived under and we'll talk.

Lumber isn't a resource, it is the byproduct of harvesting a tree. Some species, mostly deciduous hardwoods, regenerate from cutoff stumps, virtually no coniferous evergreen does that; with the exception of Sequoia's. So... Pines, Fir, Hemlock, Spruce, etc. need to be replanted to be "renewable". I'm not a tree hugger, but some forests should be left to the planet and future generations. THAT'S ALL...

 

[MossRoad]

Lumber isn't a resource, it is the byproduct of harvesting a tree. Some species, mostly deciduous hardwoods, regenerate from cutoff stumps, virtually no coniferous evergreen does that; with the exception of Sequoia's. So... Pines, Fir, Hemlock, Spruce, etc. need to be replanted to be "renewable". I'm not a tree hugger, but some forests should be left to the planet and future generations. THAT'S ALL...

Look up National Forests. One of their main purposes is for timber harvest. That's the forest that surrounded the lumber mill that closed and the subject of the conversation.

 

[bindian]

Lumber isn't a resource, it is the byproduct of harvesting a tree. Some species, mostly deciduous hardwoods, regenerate from cutoff stumps, virtually no coniferous evergreen does that; with the exception of Sequoia's. So... Pines, Fir, Hemlock, Spruce, etc. need to be replanted to be "renewable". I'm not a tree hugger, but some forests should be left to the planet and future generations. THAT'S ALL...

Next time you cut a pine tree down, look around on the ground to see how many pine trees have sprouted, then tell me it isn't renewable. Pine cones are designed to survive disaster, then open up and release it's seed. How do you think pine forests grew in the first place?
Brandi

 

[goeduck]

In the morning?

 

[Jstpssng]

Next time you cut a pine tree down, look around on the ground to see how many pine trees have sprouted, then tell me it isn't renewable. Pine cones are designed to survive disaster, then open up and release it's seed. How do you think pine forests grew in the first place?
Brandi

AMEN!!!
I've been cutting poplar trees to sell to the OSB mill. Places where I cut a year ago this already have sprouts 5 feet or more tall. In order to get to a tree, I often have to cut 10 or more saplings just to be able to drag it out. I plan my trails so that I can leave the healthiest stems, focusing on the healthiest stems, and longer living species. My property was a field at some point in time, now it's mostly wooded.
Areas where I cleared 5 or 10 years ago and didn't maintain already have trees 20-30 feet tall. Even under my powerline, which I cleared in 2016 had 10 foot tall trees until I ran the mower down through this summer.

 

[EddieWalker]

Next time you cut a pine tree down, look around on the ground to see how many pine trees have sprouted, then tell me it isn't renewable. Pine cones are designed to survive disaster, then open up and release it's seed. How do you think pine forests grew in the first place?
Brandi

A Texas State Biologist told me that if we went back in time 200 years, the pines forests of East Texas looked totally different then they do today. Tens of thousands of years created a forest with fewer trees spread farther apart and very little underbrush. Mature trees chocked out the young saplings. Forest fires cleaned out the undergrowth. This is why turkeys have so much trouble surviving here, it's not natural to have so many trees growing this close to each other.

People cleared the land, abandoned the land, and the land grew back super thick and choked out the natural way it is supposed to be. Ideally, the trees need to be thined dramatically to get it back to it's original balance.

I've also seen old pictures from the 1800's on different areas around the country and what they look like today. In the old picture, there where very few trees, but when looking at the same mountain, or valley, it's thick with trees.

Mother nature eventually corrects what we do to it, but the process is slow and we rarely take the time to let it happen.

 

[bindian]

Mother nature eventually corrects what we do to it, but the process is slow and we rarely take the time to let it happen.

Yep, you just have to look at California wildfires to understand Mother nature's correction.
hugs, Brandi

 

[Rebeldad1]

Washington State has millions of acres of renewable forest. All is harvested and replanted. has been for many years.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Next time you cut a pine tree down, look around on the ground to see how many pine trees have sprouted, then tell me it isn't renewable. Pine cones are designed to survive disaster, then open up and release it's seed. How do you think pine forests grew in the first place?
Brandi

God planted them???

 

[Jstpssng]

I always find it ironic when people seem to think that if we didn't do anything to "the outdoors" it would just revert back like we never existed. We've been influencing the planet for centuries... the American Indians used to burn the forests of Appalachia periodically to promote game habitat. The Greeks caused so much pollution with their lead works that they've found evidence on this continent. We are the dominant species on the planet for now and the population is too widespread to expect to be able to sit back and watch nature like it's a big fishbowl.