Can this Compact 47hp HST handle Chisel Plow

[saxon11]

I'm dealing with new piece of land, and hoping to farm a few acres of it. It's been two years since was corn/soybeans, so has left to weeds. Just mowed them down now (see pic). My new tractor is 47hp TYM HST, and i'm thinking of adding a chisel plow of some sort to prepare the land for planting. Even could be better is an implement that I can use for chisel plowing and cultivating between row for weeds. I'm new to using tractors for this. For a tractor this size, and recommendations of best implement for the job? thank you

 

[arrow]

hands down a pto rototiller.

 

[CausticUrbanCoast]

Plow and cultivating, closest I can think of is a power harrow if you can find one you can afford and have enough flow for it.

 

[oldnslo]

I doubt that you will find one implement to both break the ground up and then cultivate between the rows.

rule of thumb used to be 10 - 15 HP per shank on a chisel plow depending on depth, soil type etc. in your case could also be traction issue since most small tractors today do not have weight to transfer power to the ground effectively.

do you have neighbor that farms that could do the initial ground breaking for you?

 

[saxon11]

hands down a pto rototiller.

I like the idea of rototiller, but isnt the speed very, very slow?

 

[CausticUrbanCoast]

I doubt that you will find one implement to both break the ground up and then cultivate between the rows.

 

[jeff9366]

What is your location?

I'm dealing with new piece of land, and hoping to farm a few acres of it.
How many acres?

It's been two years since was corn/soybeans, so has left to weeds. Just mowed them down now (see pic). My new tractor is 47hp TYM HST, and i'm thinking of adding a chisel plow of some sort to prepare the land for planting.

TYM T474 Dimensions​

Dimensions
Wheelbase:	68.9 inches 175 cm
ROPS Length:	131 inches 332 cm
Cab Length:	133 inches 337 cm
ROPS Width:	54.5 inches 138 cm
Cab Width:	59 inches 149 cm
Height (ROPS):	94.4 inches 239 cm
Height (cab):	92.5 inches 234 cm
ROPS Weight:	3230 lbs 1465 kg
Cab Weight:	3605 lbs 1635 kg
Ground clearance:	12.8 inches 32 cm

Tractor weight is the primary determinant of what the tractor can pull. Your tractor is 500 pounds lighter than my Kubota L3560. My tractor's rear tires are inflated with air. If your tractor's rear tires are filled with liquid and your tractor has 4-WD, you will have enough weight/traction to pull any brand of All Purpose Plow with five shanks:

Dirt Dog - All Purpose Plow / Field Cultivator REVIEW + PICTURES

Dirt Dog All Purpose Plow / Field Cultivator Dirt Dog Model APP 66-5 Total Width 66", Working Width 62", Five Tines, Weight 284 Pounds, Paid $835.00 (2010) Field Cultivator: A Three Point Hitch mounted, secondary tillage implement, used to perform operations such as soil aeration...

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Even better would be an implement I can use for chisel plowing and cultivating between row for weeds.

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Consider DUCKFOOT sweeps.

 

[saxon11]

What is your location?

I'm dealing with new piece of land, and hoping to farm a few acres of it.
How many acres?

It's been two years since was corn/soybeans, so has left to weeds. Just mowed them down now (see pic). My new tractor is 47hp TYM HST, and i'm thinking of adding a chisel plow of some sort to prepare the land for planting.

TYM T474 Dimensions​

Dimensions
Wheelbase:	68.9 inches 175 cm
ROPS Length:	131 inches 332 cm
Cab Length:	133 inches 337 cm
ROPS Width:	54.5 inches 138 cm
Cab Width:	59 inches 149 cm
Height (ROPS):	94.4 inches 239 cm
Height (cab):	92.5 inches 234 cm
ROPS Weight:	3230 lbs 1465 kg
Cab Weight:	3605 lbs 1635 kg
Ground clearance:	12.8 inches 32 cm

Dirt Dog - All Purpose Plow / Field Cultivator REVIEW + PICTURES

Dirt Dog All Purpose Plow / Field Cultivator Dirt Dog Model APP 66-5 Total Width 66", Working Width 62", Five Tines, Weight 284 Pounds, Paid $835.00 (2010) Field Cultivator: A Three Point Hitch mounted, secondary tillage implement, used to perform operations such as soil aeration...

www.tractorbynet.com

Even could be better is an implement that I can use for chisel plowing and cultivating between row for weeds.

Determine SWEEPS for DIRT DOG 'ALL PURPOSE PLOW' / FIELD CULTIVATOR

SWEEPS for DIRT DOG 'ALL PURPOSE PLOW' / FIELD CULTIVATOR I have a Dirt Dog 66-5 All Purpose Plow, AKA Field Cultivator, on order. This is the same spring protected design as the Fred Cain Field Cultivator, Ford Dearborn Field Cultivator and the original Harry Ferguson "Tiller" (sic), circa...

www.tractorbynet.com

FERGUSON SWEEPS AND SHOVELS

~~~~~

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i'll be only working with 6 acres this next Spring/Summer. Location is MN.

 

[jeff9366]

An APP is fine for six acres. Relatively cheap implement for that amount of ground. Best functional reason to use and APP over a moldboard plow, followed by a disc harrow; is anti-erosion and water retention of a conservation plow. You should be able to rip SLIGHTLY MOIST SOIL at least 10" deep with your 4-WD TYM T474 pulling a five-shank APP.



Hands down a pto rototiller.
My new tractor is 47hp TYM HST,

You can easily operate a 72" forward rotation roto-tiller but new acquisition cost will be much higher. You can probably operate an 84" forward rotation roto-tiller but you need to consult on that locally.

VIDEOS: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pto+rototiller

 

[Egon]

Considering your land cultivated an 8 foot cultivator and a diamond harrow should easily meet your needs.

The cultivator should be able to handle narrow chisels or wider sweeps running a less depth.

 

[RickB]

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Not suitable for cultivating between rows unless the OP plans on an orchard or vineyard.
BTW, power harrows are typically PTO powered, hydraulic flow isn't important.

 

[arrow]

I like the idea of rototiller, but isnt the speed very, very slow?

I guess you can judge for yourself. watch

 

[RickB]

I like the idea of rototiller, but isnt the speed very, very slow?

Compared to multiple passes across the field at a higher speed, or trying to pull an implement that is too big?

 

[CausticUrbanCoast]

Not suitable for cultivating between rows unless the OP plans on an orchard or vineyard.
BTW, power harrows are typically PTO powered, hydraulic flow isn't important.

The ones around here are hydraulic, orchards use them between the rows.

 

[Fordy20]

With the amount of weeds and vegetation after two years, I would think that at least the first year you would want to plow it under or hire it done. You mention corn and soybeans but with only 12" of clearance I don't think your tractor is very well suited for row crop cultivation. The tractor in the photo is much more suited for row crop cultivation.

In addition, the ground needs to be leveled after cultivation to make a seed bed. The photo below is what I use and with the two aluminum truck frames pulled behind the cultivator it does a pretty good job of leveling with out compacting the ground. I can pull it with my John Deere 5045E two wheel drive which is about the same horse power as yours but it weighs around 5,000#. The JD G pulls it a lot better, though!

 

[LouNY]

The dirt dog chisel plow linked to above would be a good light duty chisel plow to breakup the ground,
then the chisel points could be unbolted and replaced with sweeps to cultivate.
Also a set of disks may be desirable.
You didn't mention the variety of crops you wish to raise.
One problem I have seen several times with roto-tillers is working the soil when the soil moisture is too high.
The upper layer may look well prepared but you can actually create quite a "plow" pack layer at the bottom of the working depth,
this will often seal in the ground permeability and create a very wet patch of ground that does not breath properly.

 

[Vernorz]

The dirt dog chisel plow linked to above would be a good light duty chisel plow to breakup the ground,
then the chisel points could be unbolted and replaced with sweeps to cultivate.
Also a set of disks may be desirable.
You didn't mention the variety of crops you wish to raise.
One problem I have seen several times with roto-tillers is working the soil when the soil moisture is too high.
The upper layer may look well prepared but you can actually create quite a "plow" pack layer at the bottom of the working depth,
this will often seal in the ground permeability and create a very wet patch of ground that does not breath properly.

Great point about rototillers forming a compaction layer. First time I've seen somebody mention it. They are convenient, but they really do destroy soil structure if you don't use other practices (ie. plant cover crops, subsoil, chisel plow etc.) to make up for the damage they do.

 

[CausticUrbanCoast]

Great point about rototillers forming a compaction layer. First time I've seen somebody mention it. They are convenient, but they really do destroy soil structure if you don't use other practices (ie. plant cover crops, subsoil, chisel plow etc.) to make up for the damage they do.

Because it is partially false, it depends what is being grown.

 

[m1garand762]

Find an old 3 bottom plow and and disc

 

[jeff9366]

Find an old 3 bottom plow and and disc

i'll be only working with six (6) acres this next Spring/Summer.