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[aczlan]

Missing the 2.5 to 2 hitch adapter...

Yep, something else to get rusted into the hitch...

Aaron Z

 

[seville009]

 

[Jstpssng]

Yep, something else to get rusted into the hitch...

Aaron Z

In some states it's illegal to leave it in. I wonder what people who live there find to bang into with their shins.

 

[aczlan]

In some states it's illegal to leave it in. I wonder what people who live there find to bang into with their shins.

Which ones? I've heard a lot of claims, but I've never seen anyone be able to point to a law making it illegal to leave an insert installed in your hitch UNLESS it's obstructing the view of the rear license plate.

Aaron Z

 

[Jstpssng]

Which ones? I've heard a lot of claims, but I've never seen anyone be able to point to a law making it illegal to leave an insert installed in your hitch UNLESS it's obstructing the view of the rear license plate.

Aaron Z

Good question. It might be just one of those urban legends which keep getting passed down. Apparently there was a bill in Illinois in 2012 to outlaw it. The bill was tabled, but that might be how the rumor got started.

I promise to stop perpetrating that lie.

 

[Grumpycat]

In some states it's illegal to leave it in. I wonder what people who live there find to bang into with their shins.

Is likely one of those things akin to fog/auxiliary lights. Strict NHTSA/DOT/CFR says anything beyond certified low beams qualifies as high beams. But the regs are worded so bad one must make a career of interpreting. Guaranteed employment for bureaucrat lawyers. Furthermore high beams are limited so the aux/fog lights are automatically turned off. So if strictly enforced the aux/fog lights are high beams and should be extinguished for oncoming traffic. There are a few states who say this explicitly in state code.

One thing indisputable: get rear ended with drawbar mounted in receiver one is liable for additional damage to the vehicle which rear ended you. Plus you get more of the impact transferred to the receiver mounts vs bumper.

 

[California]

One thing indisputable: get rear ended with drawbar mounted in receiver one is liable for additional damage to the vehicle which rear ended you.

Guess I was lucky. Guy in a Federal motor pool car followed me up a freeway on ramp and rammed the hitch on my Wagoneer. He said he had been looking over his shoulder for a gap to merge into. No damage to the jeep. I wonder what he said when he turned in his Plymouth.

 

[aczlan]

One thing indisputable: get rear ended with drawbar mounted in receiver one is liable for additional damage to the vehicle which rear ended you.

I'm confused what you're trying to say here, are you trying to say that more damage will be caused, or that there will be some different amount of liability if somebody runs in the back of your vehicle and you have a hitch in versus a hitch out?
Generally speaking (from what I understand) if somebody rear ends your vehicle they are considered to be at fault because they were following too closely, whether or not you have a trailer hitch installed in the back of your vehicle would not be considered to be relevant.
If they hit you hard enough to damage something on the trailer hitch sticking out, they would have hit you either way, it's just a question of whether they need a new radiator as well, or just a front bumper.

Aaron Z

 

[notaz3]

I’d like to know that body shop too. They pieced that car back together every time.

I'd like to know how they got that car to do over 120 MPH.

 

[dodge man]

I'd like to know how they got that car to do over 120 MPH.

Tailwind.

 

[RandyT]

Good question. It might be just one of those urban legends which keep getting passed down. Apparently there was a bill in Illinois in 2012 to outlaw it. The bill was tabled, but that might be how the rumor got started.

I promise to stop perpetrating that lie.

I have ran into people that believe that is the law here is IL. And one guy last summer basically cussed me out saying I didn't know what I was talking about. There brother or some relative got a ticket for hitch in receiver and even after showing the guy that the bill never even made it out of the committee and was never passed out of the state senate or house and was never signed by the governor they were still calling me a liar.

 

[Jstpssng]

I'm just not sure what I would have to bang my shins into if I took the hitch out every time.

 

[California]

Reportedly it was a simulation in Beam NG.

Aaron Z

Creating that, sounds interesting. More details?

 

[aczlan]

Creating that, sounds interesting. More details?

No idea, it was in one of the comments on Reddit, someone asked if it was real, someone responded that it looked like Beam NG, and a couple of others concurred.
Looks like it runs on Steam: Home

Aaron Z

 

[Grumpycat]

I'm confused what you're trying to say here, are you trying to say that more damage will be caused, or that there will be some different amount of liability if somebody runs in the back of your vehicle and you have a hitch in versus a hitch out?
Generally speaking (from what I understand) if somebody rear ends your vehicle they are considered to be at fault because they were following too closely, whether or not you have a trailer hitch installed in the back of your vehicle would not be considered to be relevant.
If they hit you hard enough to damage something on the trailer hitch sticking out, they would have hit you either way, it's just a question of whether they need a new radiator as well, or just a front bumper.

Aaron Z

But your drawbar goring the vehicle caused damage which would not be but for your drawbar.

 

[Renze]

But your drawbar goring the vehicle caused damage which would not be but for your drawbar.

If your vehicle wasnt there in front of them, they wouldnt have damage at all...

Dont know about the law where you live, but here the one rear ending another is fault, unless the vehicle rear ended was backing up or can be proven to have been brake checking the other. In some instances the law is made simple to avoid court cases without evidence at every bump.

 

[aczlan]

But your drawbar goring the vehicle caused damage which would not be but for your drawbar.

Generally, the rule is as @Renze said, ie: if they had not been following too closely they would not have caused the accident that damaged their car.
Therefore they are liable for their own damages and (if applicable) the damages to your vehicle.
The law does not differentiate between them running into your trailer hitch, the back of your car, or the back of the trailer that you are towing.
It is all considered to be the same in the eyes of the law.

Aaron Z

 

[RjCorazza]

Interesting... I almost posted that it is illegal to leave a hitch in the receiver in Pennsylvania. Apparently not so!
I must have read about pending or proposed legislation that never made it to law.

 

[Diggin It]

Cuppla' feet further forward Bub.

 

[civilian]

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Cuppla' feet further forward Bub.

Need a couple of tail gate riders to set the truck back down on its wheels. Jon