Tym vs Massey Ferguson

[Skeletor]

I've got the turbo version. No problems so far. I'm mostly in trees, so cab is not worth it. I figured I could rent a mini ex for much less than the cost of the backhoe. Unless it is for light commercial work, it may not be for you either. It may be worth trying to estimate how many hours worth of backhoe work you have planned.

I know I wouldn’t use it a hell of a lot. What keeps me on the fence is I like to kinda be ready for whatever. I don’t need a backhoe today but who knows what tomorrow might bring…..

Do you know if there’s any difference in the 494 and yours other than the turbo? It’s a 2k difference between the two tractors I think.

 

[Torvy]

I know I wouldn’t use it a hell of a lot. What keeps me on the fence is I like to kinda be ready for whatever. I don’t need a backhoe today but who knows what tomorrow might bring…..

Do you know if there’s any difference in the 494 and yours other than the turbo? It’s a 2k difference between the two tractors I think.

No other difference at all. Mine was only $1500 difference. I wanted the extra PTO HP for my uses. I also added the 3rd function.

 

[Skeletor]

No other difference at all. Mine was only $1500 difference. I wanted the extra PTO HP for my uses. I also added the 3rd function.

I’m def doing 3rd function they want 1400 for that. I wonder how much a new turbo costs if it craps out. Forks for sure maybe a grapple and I have an odd attraction to getting a rototiller.

 

[jyoutz]

No other difference at all. Mine was only $1500 difference. I wanted the extra PTO HP for my uses. I also added the 3rd function.

Depending on where you live the turbo can be highly desirable. At higher elevations, non-turbo engines lose power. The turbo makes them breathe better in those circumstances. Most of us in the Rocky Mountains region buy machines with turbos.

 

[Skeletor]

I may get the turbo just cuse why not I mean it’s not much more money in the grand scheme of things. I like how their engines are simple and it looks like I could just remove or smash out the dpf if I wanted to and the tractor would work just fine.

 

[Hay Dude]

I’m def doing 3rd function they want 1400 for that. I wonder how much a new turbo costs if it craps out. Forks for sure maybe a grapple and I have an odd attraction to getting a rototiller.

Turbos don’t usually crap out. They are extremely reliable. Most are ruined by operator error-which is shutting down a really hot tractor without cooling it off, or not changing the oil
enough.

 

[Hay Dude]

I may get the turbo just cuse why not I mean it’s not much more money in the grand scheme of things. I like how their engines are simple and it looks like I could just remove or smash out the dpf if I wanted to and the tractor would work just fine.

Hmmm, I don’t know about that. Emissions devices are usually built with tamper-resistant features. In other words, if you remove them without using a defeating device, it won’t work just fine. You can probably buy or carefully design a DPF work-around, but you usually can’t just smash out the DPF.

 

[stoyan79]

On a Kukje engine you can. Its mechanical (no computers).

Hmmm, I don’t know about that. Emissions devices are usually built with tamper-resistant features. In other words, if you remove them without using a defeating device, it won’t work just fine. You can probably buy or carefully design a DPF work-around, but you usually can’t just smash out the DPF.

 

[Hay Dude]

On a Kukje engine you can. Its mechanical (no computers).

Thats unique!

 

[Skeletor]

I’m back and fourth but I’m narrowing it down. I’m gonna skip the hoe and cab I really don’t need them and they’re expensive. So now I gotta decide either the Massey 2850e or the tym 494. Looks like around a 3500 or so dollar difference between the dealers prices with the attatchments I wanna get.
3rd function, grapple,tire fluid, forks. Price isn’t too far off so might be worth stepping up to the Massey. feel it’s probably a safer decision cuse of agco
but those tym apecs look nice too!

 

[jyoutz]

I’m back and fourth but I’m narrowing it down. I’m gonna skip the hoe and cab I really don’t need them and they’re expensive. So now I gotta decide either the Massey 2850e or the tym 494. Looks like around a 3500 or so dollar difference between the dealers prices with the attatchments I wanna get.
3rd function, grapple,tire fluid, forks. Price isn’t too far off so might be worth stepping up to the Massey. feel it’s probably a safer decision cuse of agco
but those tym apecs look nice too!

How do you feel about available local dealership service and parts for each brand? That will help with your decision. Also be sure the the two you’re considering are comparable in specs.

 

[Skeletor]

On the Massey I’m considering getting it from Bruno’s and getting it shipped here. Their prices are so much better than the local guy. He wants like 4k more for a 1835 than Bruno’s does My local Massey guys prices are on another planet. I can’t speak to how their service is cuse I’ve never had to use it in my two years with my Massey.

The tym dealer is an hour and a half away but it’s a large dealer. There’s a very small tym dealer near me. I’m gonna call them and see what their prices are but they didn’t have a 494 last week anyway. They had more ls than tym. I’ve bought saws from them over the years but no tractors.

 

[stoyan79]

Where is 2850e made and by which company?
I understand it is not Japanese?

 

[Skeletor]

You know I can’t remember. I’ve looked at so many tractors I forget. India maybe?

 

[tacticalturnip]

So, if it's the same as the 18 series, the E is made in Indonesia and the M made in Japan.

The Indonesian built machines seem real solid in their own right, I really liked what the 18E had to offer, I just liked my Kioti more lol.

 

[Skeletor]

At this point most of the brands have a pretty decent machine. I’m not really worried about ending up with a total pos but I don’t wanna be all Willy nilly about my choice either.

 

[Torvy]

Good point. Every brand will have units that just have problems. Most makes and models are fine. Buy dealer, value and features.

 

[stoyan79]

Is it built by same company that builds the Japanese Masseys?

So, if it's the same as the 18 series, the E is made in Indonesia and the M made in Japan.

The Indonesian built machines seem real solid in their own right, I really liked what the 18E had to offer, I just liked my Kioti more lol.

 

[Hay Dude]

If your machines are highly comparable in specs, prices are similar, etc. then move onto new categories of comparison.
Like which one will have better parts/service support? Which one will have higher resale? Which one will be more recognizable brand name in 10 years? Which dealer gives you a more stable or service-oriented feeling?

 

[stoyan79]

OK, it looks like the Indonesian Masseys are still made by Iseki, so thats good news. Also seeing 0% financing currently for the E series. If you like the Massey dealer best, its a no brainer.