MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch

   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #21  
Install a safety switch between your ears and you will probably be better off than hoping that the seat switch does something to help you after a stupid move on your part!

Seriously...
^This! Point I was trying to make but stated in a much more succinct way!
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #22  
I mean, how many of you guys with older tractors are retrofitting them with seat safety switches????

I don't see my newer Kubota M7060 as inherently more dangerous than my old John Deere.
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #23  
Just bypass it and forget about it.
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch
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#24  
you could look at lifting it /shimming it or slightly change its location.

I'm not sure its possible with this style safety switch. Its installed into the bottom of the seat itself, and extends into the actual cushion portion of the seat. Its not a lever style where weight on the seat frame engages, you have to push down on a specific portion of the seat. I really need to take a pic when I am back home, but I don't recall the 4330 being set up this way. Oddly enough, I also have a 4630 and 7060, and neither one has ever given me any issues.
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #25  
I'm not sure its possible with this style safety switch. Its installed into the bottom of the seat itself, and extends into the actual cushion portion of the seat. Its not a lever style where weight on the seat frame engages, you have to push down on a specific portion of the seat. I really need to take a pic when I am back home, but I don't recall the 4330 being set up this way. Oddly enough, I also have a 4630 and 7060, and neither one has ever given me any issues.

Jason, each time you post about that switch, it seems to be less dependable, less repeatable, and less predictable. That sure doesn't sound like much of a safety feature to me. Just because it came that way doesn't mean they got it right.

Given how much a person has to move around and sometimes stand up a little when operating a tractor, that MX5400 switch seems less and less safe with each post.

I'd delete it. Simply paying attention isn't perfectly perfectly reliable either, but it's a better bet.

rScotty
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #26  
Install a safety switch between your ears and you will probably be better off than hoping that the seat switch does something to help you after a stupid move on your part!

Seriously...

I don't know why but Something tells me your not a fan of dark humor ...
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #27  
Interestingly, both my M9's have the OPC switch on the seat but all they do is alert you with a shrill whistle and nothing more. Tractors keep right on chugging along.

If it was me, I'd invest in a paper clip and jump it and be done with it...forever.
Same on my M9960. Beeps but does not shut down.

Farm tractors are sold mostly to farmers. CUTs/SCUTS are marketed to yuppies.

Tort attorneys lurk.
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #28  
Same on my M9960. Beeps but does not shut down.

Farm tractors are sold mostly to farmers. CUTs/SCUTS are marketed to yuppies.

Tort attorneys lurk.
As crass as that sounds, it's very true. 'real tractors' that do farm related work often times require the PTO to be running when no one is in the seat like when operating a grain leg or a post pounder, both of which I own. Even a PTO powered generator falls into that realm.
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #29  
Its bad enough that my 130lb wife and 140lb son can't even operate the tractor.
Is that really a bad thing? Careful what you wish for!!!

I'm surprised tractors haven't incorporated a seatbelt safety switch. No seatbelt, and the engine cuts out.

I am actually fairly dynamic. I stand up to look at the bucket/forks. I shut off the engine if I'm working off of the tractor for > one minute. But, if it is a quick jump off, jump back on, or even checking fork alignment with a pallet, I don't want the engine to cut off.

My 4 wheel drive locker takes a fair amount of weight, and actually works best with my sitting on the fender.

So no seat safety switch. And no clutch safety switch either.
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #30  
Just say no to seat switches :D
I never had one I did not disable.
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #31  
Is it a plastic disc type switch? I've put extra padding above the disc to make it less sensitive but still works if you get tipped off the seat. I get having a bypass switch is helpful when you run the PTO off tractor, if it won't stay going with the brake set.
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #33  
If you have the common sense to worry about the consequences of disconnecting the switch than you have enough common sense to be aware of what you did and it will be OK.

Someone disconnected the switch on my L4060, but I keep the switch working on my BX2360 since I use that pretty much exclusively for mowing and the thought of tipping it on a hill with the mower running is not a pretty picture.
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #34  
Have you considered having Kubota look at it? It may be a switch issue that is causing the over sensitivity of the switch. A simple change out might fix the issue.
Most people opt to just delete the switch, and while I admit that the switch can be a pain at times, there is a perfectly good reason for it's existance. Most people don't think the rare occasions that the switch might save their lives to be worth the aggravation of dealing with it.
My biggest issue with it is when I am trying to pick up something with the forks on the FEL and I can't quite see the tips of the forks, and don't want to run into the item. I typically get close, then adjust the for tips by standing up to see them, then moving slightly forward till I am under it. Not possible with the switch operating.
Just for the record, I have never disabled a switch, and my Kubota doesn't shut down when I get off the seat, so someone must have!
David from jax
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #35  
As crass as that sounds, it's very true. 'real tractors' that do farm related work often times require the PTO to be running when no one is in the seat like when operating a grain leg or a post pounder, both of which I own. Even a PTO powered generator falls into that realm.

When we little guys need our little tractors to run a PTO unseated, we rotate our little seats forward against the steering wheel.
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #36  
I am glad Kubota didn't make the m7060 like this or I would delete it. My tractor is set up to where it only interferes if the pto is on. I like to stand up on the tractor during loader use.
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #37  
OP, from memory, I think you're right about the 4330 seat switch being different than your current model. Seems like there's a plastic arm about
1 1/2" long that pivots when it hits the opposite surface.
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #38  
Adjust the seat adjustment to softer and it will solve the problem
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #39  
My biggest issue with it is when I am trying to pick up something with the forks on the FEL and I can't quite see the tips of the forks, and don't want to run into the item. I typically get close, then adjust the for tips by standing up to see them, then moving slightly forward till I am under it. Not possible with the switch operating.
The CK I have has a ~5sec delay. Not the longest of times, but prevents it from cutting off while looking at my fork tips or getting bounced around in the field.
 
   / MX5400....I hate the seat safety switch #40  
My Kioti Ck2610, I was really thinking about disabling seat safety. It's nice to be able to stand up, and look at pallet forks ect; However; one time. wife's German Shepard tried to hop up on the tractor deck as I was getting down, and he hit the forward peddle, trying to run himself and me over. Decided not to bypass. What I would like is an ability to hit a switch to switch between safety and not safety?
Good thing you don't own an older tractor!
 

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