Is a John Deere really worth 24% more that a Kubota

[jyoutz]

In China, John Deere is more deeply rooted in the hearts of the people, so his used cars retain their value better than Kubota

Used cars?

 

[tacticalturnip]

Used cars?

Translation errors, he means tractor.

 

[wolc123]

In my opinion, a Deere is worth at least that much more than a Kubota, however I have zero experience with Kubota. 20 years ago, when I bought my new Deere CUT (model 4120), it slightly outspec’d a comparable Kubota (model GL4330) in most categories and the best price I could find was a couple hundred less for the Deere.

Other advantages of that Deere for me were that it was American made, including the JD Powertech engine, and the nearest dealer is about a mile closer to my house.

20 years and 2000 hours later, I’m pretty happy with the service it has provided. I keep up on the maintenance and I see no reason why this tractor won’t outlast me. I’m thankful to have gotten it when JD still used American made engines in their largest CUT’s, and before the tier 4 emissions bs went into effect.

Truthfully, the smaller Yanmar engines that they mostly use now, are also pretty darned bulletproof. My dad has a 15 year older model 770 JD with a few more hours on it and a 23 hp one if those in it, that still runs like a watch.

The 24 % more deal, for the Deere, seems odd to me. 20 years ago, the orange ones cost a little more and they still seem to today, for comparably sized machines. You’re likely comparing apples to oranges, if the price difference is that much. I’d still pay it if I had to though, based on 75 years of experience with John Deere tractors on our farm, going back to the model M gas 2 cylinder, that my grandad replaced a team of horses with in 1950.

That one hadn’t ran in a few years now, but likely would if we put a new battery and some gas in it.

 

[check]

Wow, never in a millon years would I pay 24% more for a John Deere over a Kubota for essentially the same tractor. I bought my BX 25 in the fall of 2008, and I only paid $18,000 all in. Now the latest version, called the BX 23S, is something like $35,000 before tax, and I wouldn’t pay that much for it today.

I am also absolutely shocked at how much those axles get overloaded in the Messics video, and it is a wonder that my axle did not screw up yet! How can they get away with that? Having seen that video, I’m going to put less in my front loader from now on.

 

[DieselnHooters]

I always believed that in the compact and sub-compact class Kubota were selling at a good size premium to JD and a huge one to other brands....guess I was wrong, maybe they are a bargain.

 

[Axing]

Used cars?

Oh sir, it's my problem, in China a lot of vehicles will be referred to simply as cars, like "there are three cars plowing in the north", then "car" of course means tractors
So we will also call used tractors "used cars", but this is in a specific language range, for example we are talking about tractors, then used cars refer to used tractors, if we talk about harvesters, then of course the used cars I am talking about are used corn harvesters

 

[Axing]

In my opinion, a Deere is worth at least that much more than a Kubota, however I have zero experience with Kubota. 20 years ago, when I bought my new Deere CUT (model 4120), it slightly outspec’d a comparable Kubota (model GL4330) in most categories and the best price I could find was a couple hundred less for the Deere.

Other advantages of that Deere for me were that it was American made, including the JD Powertech engine, and the nearest dealer is about a mile closer to my house.

20 years and 2000 hours later, I’m pretty happy with the service it has provided. I keep up on the maintenance and I see no reason why this tractor won’t outlast me. I’m thankful to have gotten it when JD still used American made engines in their largest CUT’s, and before the tier 4 emissions bs went into effect.
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Truthfully, the smaller Yanmar engines that they mostly use now, are also pretty darned bulletproof. My dad has a 15 year older model 770 JD with a few more hours on it and a 23 hp one if those in it, that still runs like a watch.
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The 24 % more deal, for the Deere, seems odd to me. 20 years ago, the orange ones cost a little more and they still seem to today, for comparably sized machines. You’re likely comparing apples to oranges, if the price difference is that much. I’d still pay it if I had to though, based on 75 years of experience with John Deere tractors on our farm, going back to the model M gas 2 cylinder, that my grandad replaced a team of horses with in 1950.

That one hadn’t ran in a few years now, but likely would if we put a new battery and some gas in it.
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Sir, can John Deere in the third photo still be activated?

 

[wolc123]

Sir, can John Deere in the third photo still be activated?

I don’t see why not. My dad used it for his garden over there quite a few years and he backed it into that spot, under its own power, about 10 years ago. Nobody has tried to start it since then, the last year he had a garden.

A little fresh gas and a new 6 volt battery, and my guess is, that it would fire right up. He has a mounted two bottom plow and one row mounted cultivators for it.

My grandpa bought it new in 1950. It was quite a bit less expensive than a Ford 8n back then. It doesn’t have a 3 point hitch, but it does have live hydraulics, on the draw bar. That gave it an edge over the Ford, for plowing. Changing implements took a lot longer though.

That was the first tractor that I ever operated. I used to crimp and rake hay, and cultivated a lot of corn with it, when I was a teenager.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Sir, can John Deere in the third photo still be activated?

With a little effort I'm sure it would start easily!

 

[Axing]

With a little effort I'm sure it would start easily!

Indeed, it looks in good condition

 

[Axing]

I don’t see why not. My dad used it for his garden over there quite a few years and he backed it into that spot, under its own power, about 10 years ago. Nobody has tried to start it since then, the last year he had a garden.

A little fresh gas and a new 6 volt battery, and my guess is, that it would fire right up. He has a mounted two bottom plow and one row mounted cultivators for it.

My grandpa bought it new in 1950. It was quite a bit less expensive than a Ford 8n back then. It doesn’t have a 3 point hitch, but it does have live hydraulics, on the draw bar. That gave it an edge over the Ford, for plowing. Changing implements took a lot longer though.

That was the first tractor that I ever operated. I used to crimp and rake hay, and cultivated a lot of corn with it, when I was a teenager.

In 1950? God, it's a distant number, it's 50 years older than me, I can call it grandpa

 

[wolc123]

In 1950? God, it's a distant number, it's 50 years older than me, I can call it grandpa

My dad wants my younger brother the inherit that old model M one day. It’s got good paint on it, but is pretty worn down, from lots of operating hours. There was quite a bit of play in the steering, the last time I ran it.

I like the unique sound of its 2 cylinder gas engine, but not quite as much as the 4 cylinder turbo charged diesel on my 4120.

 

[lantxinNETX]

Wow, never in a millon years would I pay 24% more for a John Deere over a Kubota for essentially the same tractor. I bought my BX 25 in the fall of 2008, and I only paid $18,000 all in. Now the latest version, called the BX 23S, is something like $35,000 before tax, and I wouldn’t pay that much for it today.

I am also absolutely shocked at how much those axles get overloaded in the Messics video, and it is a wonder that my axle did not screw up yet! How can they get away with that? Having seen that video, I’m going to put less in my front loader from now on.

For what it's worth the BX23S was quoted to me at $24,000 USD and the 60" mower an extra $2500 USD

 

[check]

For what it's worth the BX23S was quoted to me at $24,000 USD and the 60" mower an extra $2500 USD

Yes, my prices were $ Canadian, so that is about the same.

 

[Axing]

My dad wants my younger brother the inherit that old model M one day. It’s got good paint on it, but is pretty worn down, from lots of operating hours. There was quite a bit of play in the steering, the last time I ran it.

I like the unique sound of its 2 cylinder gas engine, but not quite as much as the 4 cylinder turbo charged diesel on my 4120.

With a little maintenance, this tractor will be a great heirloom, and it represents the mechanized transformation of your family

 

[marinohh5]

I have a Kubota and friend has a JD. I don't really see much difference in them

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[Jrasband]

John Deere seems to be built a little heavier to me whenever I look at them it seems pretty obvious if you study them.

 

[5030]

Entertaining thread. I'd be tickled to sell the 'Young Chinese Guy' a new Kubota or John Deere (it's Deere not Deer btw) at a good price plus a 400% reciprocal tariff....

 

[RayIN]

After 82 years I've determined one really does get what they pay for.
I wonder how many HST tractors will still be running 50 yrs from today???? I know my 1972 Massey Ferguson 135, gear drive, is still running strong, and it's on the original clutch.

 

[jyoutz]

After 82 years I've determined one really does get what they pay for.
I wonder how many HST tractors will still be running 50 yrs from today???? I know my 1972 Massey Ferguson 135, gear drive, is still running strong, and it's on the original clutch.

Why would a HST machine not last? There are many 70s model HST tractors still operating.